From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#8492: 23.3; Time to use a different binding for completion? Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2021 13:11:16 -0700 Message-ID: References: <87zknuhxl4.fsf@sc3d.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="16838"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 8492@debbugs.gnu.org To: Reuben Thomas Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 21 22:47:25 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mdeyD-00049b-0e for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2021 22:47:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57066 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mdeyB-0003wP-NR for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2021 16:47:23 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37804) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mdePy-0003Mj-Sb for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2021 16:12:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:47130) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mdePy-0006ui-Ky for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2021 16:12:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mdePy-0008Ec-Gh for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2021 16:12:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Kangas Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2021 20:12:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 8492 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 8492-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B8492.163484708431595 (code B ref 8492); Thu, 21 Oct 2021 20:12:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 8492) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Oct 2021 20:11:24 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58676 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mdePM-0008DX-Gs for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2021 16:11:24 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pf1-f178.google.com ([209.85.210.178]:33306) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mdePK-0008DL-UC for 8492@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2021 16:11:23 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pf1-f178.google.com with SMTP id t184so1692569pfd.0 for <8492@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 21 Oct 2021 13:11:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=5Fz+gBZNhyklEXbw/XoSrP+R1uggssd7DFWH7wlCnZo=; b=A1jbJD4lyzxf3a+Lo43CaCD6Zkam+Ojji/v4sdngi6c3XwX4ysF/rCVsEarrJDROGp jR2fbWLQuE1fMD3+2qNbstmHoR1QOp1x08WAlfhXdTkIiDZyaRVhn/8G9HAefD4cU8f7 Iqw2RW3UI/AyPhtAvxoLbLJ68/GbIqUbAwJ21GbRcWarm7YvT99jQV5bd5kvdbqn/7W7 fqNRYFP7vv9DXaFOUklzGWiCETmyY1xLDgO57up2znhTdIJlX/F3TXUNyQsVqmx0geVT 24a52IFSu1Mmr7ugMH3BpcGtXr87lzf9dTdWVICefZ+4B2DYXzn/FRE1SRagdeuRtGfR ElYA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533exNE+5PUIIaqokQEKt0vNNldfoaw+OB3YDdKO6lgm0AJNWTjx tn72gCKYeoZ5XbIgw7zwGd771PJnR/XMCAjtbYA= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyCVuiUh8t+wrCianGw9u/yemOpHW43PuSrgy/ZPSLu/B9bIVinvSEW+UwUKTTWN3wQl5WHrY30IxK9UlPyDbo= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6a00:244d:b0:44d:c279:5155 with SMTP id d13-20020a056a00244d00b0044dc2795155mr7620836pfj.0.1634847077091; Thu, 21 Oct 2021 13:11:17 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Thu, 21 Oct 2021 13:11:16 -0700 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:217819 Archived-At: Reuben Thomas writes: > On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 at 20:44, Stefan Kangas wrote: > >> >> In my opinion, the least intrusive change is to allow C-i and TAB to be >> bound separately on graphical displays. >> > > Ingenious! And potentially controversial, but we will see. ;-) > In the mean time, I have solved the problem personally by using Super > rather than Alt/Meta for all my window manager bindings; but I'm conscious > that this won't help many users who never rebind system keys. Indeed. I'm not the biggest fan of the method of "fixing" issues by telling users to rebind keys locally. The problem here is universal.