From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#24224: Enable 'h, j, k, l' key navigation where ever possible Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 14:45:05 -0400 Message-ID: References: <83wpjjfel5.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="27903"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 24224@debbugs.gnu.org, Mohammed Sadik To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 22 20:46:11 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1k9YWo-00078Z-K0 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Sat, 22 Aug 2020 11:45:06 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Sat, 22 Aug 2020 14:45:05 -0400 In-Reply-To: <83wpjjfel5.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 14 Aug 2016 20:24:54 +0300") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:185988 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Mohammed Sadik >> Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2016 12:22:38 +0530 >> >> There are several buffers where alphabet keys have no effect. >> In such buffers, it would be nice to enable the keys h, j, k, and l, for >> navigation, and even further q for quit (or close the buffer), o for >> other window, etc. This might also help resolve the pinky problem a little. >> >> The buffers that can include those key for navigation can be >> help-mode, apropos-mode, woman, package-menu-mode (package listings), >> compilation-mode, customize (Custom-mode), info-mode, and so on. > > Some of these keys are already bound in some of these modes. For > example, h and l have bindings in help-mode. > > So I guess this could be some optional minor mode, off by default. (That was 4 years ago.) The request is to bind 'h', 'j', 'k' and 'l' where possible, presumably to be more like vim. I think this use case is mostly covered by viper and/or the third-party evil. Eli pointed out that this would conflict with current key bindings, and I can only add that it would not be worth usurping these key bindings everywhere when we already have 'f', 'b', 'n' and 'p'. Eli also suggested that this could be an optional minor mode. I don't see why we couldn't include such a package in GNU ELPA, but I don't think it makes sense to keep a request like this open in our bug tracker indefinitely if no one is actively working on it. Any other opinions? And is anyone working on this? Best regards, Stefan Kangas