From: Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>
To: Tim Cross <theophilusx@gmail.com>
Cc: Emacs developers <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [External] : Re: Gitlab Migration
Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2021 18:05:20 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADwFkmkDs-xJWFqajKuHbWSzaQ_gTPBkyjJxF6CAjm_xAYN2_A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87lf4dnk0z.fsf@gmail.com>
Tim Cross <theophilusx@gmail.com> writes:
> Yes, I think this may be a 'flavour' which has won and can no longer be
> considered a passing fad. The uncommon bindings used by Emacs for cut,
> copy and paste is probably the number one complaint I hear from new
> users. The kill-ring really just provides an enhancement rather than
> a fundamental difference.
Yup. I don't think I could unlearn some keys (e.g. C-w for
kill-region) without massive pain. So I'm not sure I will personally
ever bother re-learning after using Emacs for going on two decades.
At the same time, I have no idea why it is the case in 2021 that Emacs
appeases my archaic preference for C-w to the extent that it makes it
the default. If Emacs would want to change here, it wouldn't impact
me at all if I could easily move the keys back to where I feel they
belong.
> This would probably be a good candidate for the profiles idea. Change
> the default, but have the old behaviour in a 'traditional' profile and
> have the default be the more common CUA bindings.
This would be my ideal future, as well.
> However, part of me
> wishes I'd not become accustomed to those key bindings as it is a
> constant frustration when I'm forced to use a different program which
> I've not been able to tweak - none of which would be necessary if I
> hadn't grown accustomed to Emacs bindings. These are such common and
> frequently used bindings, consistency across applications is probably
> more important than maintaining inconsistent bindings simply to
> highlight fairly subtle differences.
Amen. I've lost work many times by closing tabs in Firefox when I
actually wanted to paste something. Learning to mentally switch
context between "Emacs" and "not Emacs" is in this case a trial by
fire.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-09-04 16:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-09-03 18:00 [External] : Re: Gitlab Migration Drew Adams
2021-09-03 20:06 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-03 22:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-04 2:00 ` Tim Cross
2021-09-04 13:26 ` Keybinding styles (was: [External] : Re: Gitlab Migration) Stefan Monnier
2021-09-04 13:39 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-04 14:25 ` Keybinding styles Stefan Monnier
2021-09-04 15:44 ` Keybinding styles (was: [External] : Re: Gitlab Migration) Yuan Fu
2021-09-04 15:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-04 15:55 ` Drew Adams
2021-09-04 16:07 ` Yuan Fu
2021-09-04 16:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-06 3:07 ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-06 11:28 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-04 19:55 ` Keybinding styles Daniel Fleischer
2021-09-04 20:52 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-05 7:17 ` tomas
2021-09-04 16:09 ` Bird
2021-09-04 20:48 ` Keybinding styles (was: [External] : Re: Gitlab Migration) Tim Cross
2021-09-05 19:03 ` John Yates
2021-09-06 4:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-07 3:16 ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-07 12:02 ` John Yates
2021-09-08 3:29 ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-08 12:15 ` Keybinding styles André A. Gomes
2021-09-08 13:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-08 20:37 ` John Yates
2021-09-09 5:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-15 13:40 ` André A. Gomes
2021-09-15 14:26 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-15 15:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-15 20:15 ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-15 21:29 ` Alexandre Garreau
2021-09-16 5:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-16 5:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-09 3:09 ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-04 16:05 ` Stefan Kangas [this message]
2021-09-04 2:20 ` [External] : Re: Gitlab Migration Drew Adams
2021-09-04 13:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-04 14:58 ` Drew Adams
2021-09-04 16:10 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-04 16:40 ` Drew Adams
2021-09-05 19:27 ` John Yates
2021-09-07 3:16 ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-07 15:31 ` Barry Fishman
2021-09-09 3:07 ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-09 14:07 ` André A. Gomes
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2021-08-26 16:20 Daniel Fleischer
2021-08-26 17:24 ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-08-26 17:59 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-08-26 19:31 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-08-26 19:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-26 20:12 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-08-26 20:51 ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-26 21:41 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-08-26 21:52 ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-30 16:30 ` João Távora
2021-08-30 16:51 ` Drew Adams
2021-08-30 17:59 ` João Távora
2021-08-30 19:18 ` André A. Gomes
2021-08-27 6:21 ` tomas
2021-08-27 6:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-27 7:25 ` Drew Adams
2021-08-27 1:01 ` Tim Cross
2021-08-27 7:07 ` Daniel Fleischer
2021-08-27 7:34 ` Tim Cross
2021-08-27 8:25 ` tomas
2021-08-27 9:47 ` Tim Cross
2021-08-27 16:59 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-08-27 16:59 ` Drew Adams
2021-08-27 17:08 ` tomas
2021-08-29 3:01 ` Richard Stallman
2021-08-28 1:39 ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-28 3:21 ` Tim Cross
2021-08-28 5:02 ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-28 7:53 ` Tim Cross
2021-08-28 16:11 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-08-29 0:54 ` Tim Cross
2021-08-29 3:18 ` Drew Adams
2021-08-30 2:59 ` Richard Stallman
2021-08-27 7:00 ` Daniel Fleischer
2021-08-27 11:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-27 14:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-08-27 21:09 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-08-28 6:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-29 2:27 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-08-30 2:58 ` Richard Stallman
2021-08-30 12:20 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-08-30 12:48 ` Daniel Fleischer
2021-08-30 12:55 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-03 4:57 ` Elias Mårtenson
2021-09-03 5:26 ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-09-03 7:26 ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-09-03 10:26 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-03 11:11 ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-09-03 11:31 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-03 11:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-04 8:02 ` Daniel Fleischer
2021-09-04 16:32 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-09-04 18:39 ` Daniel Fleischer
2021-09-04 19:14 ` Drew Adams
2021-09-04 19:51 ` Daniel Fleischer
2021-09-04 20:18 ` Tim Cross
2021-09-04 20:41 ` Daniel Fleischer
2021-08-31 3:09 ` Richard Stallman
2021-08-31 11:43 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-08-31 16:03 ` João Távora
2021-08-31 18:53 ` André A. Gomes
2021-09-04 23:45 ` Yuchen Pei
2021-09-05 1:26 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
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