From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Do shorthands break basic tooling (tags, grep, etc)? (was Re: Shorthands have landed on master) Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2021 02:11:09 +0200 Message-ID: References: <16338bdc2497fc51c6fb6d54ab370bfb@webmail.orcon.net.nz> <831r59kyhf.fsf@gnu.org> <834ka4k15m.fsf@gnu.org> <83y27gijmz.fsf@gnu.org> <87sfxmgqvd.fsf@fastmail.fm> <87h7e2qk0m.fsf@alphapapa.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="10982"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Emacs developers To: Adam Porter Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 01 02:12:10 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mW69q-0002aj-8s for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 01 Oct 2021 02:12:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60304 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mW69o-0004CF-OQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 30 Sep 2021 20:12:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36112) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mW696-0003WH-72 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Sep 2021 20:11:24 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pj1-f49.google.com ([209.85.216.49]:40933) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mW694-0002Su-K8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Sep 2021 20:11:23 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pj1-f49.google.com with SMTP id d4-20020a17090ad98400b0019ece228690so7976091pjv.5 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 2021 17:11:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=ieWCGJ98IuxgdiT5ziXP0PLpdjEM07CpY13+FFqzhow=; b=PEd8E95tsu63yS6yijL/Aa7zBmD2Xr5WLSB5CG3AKQ9FWYHWB4iBEcjqRnbNeMC49W XVBer/xMcC2ywYsdGBrznksKKXlmSb9IqHYM2J1fMH4kAPolmZ2W/ntYsTnT4B9R+gW3 P3EDS5fWnXx50kdt4s7HM9+Yj1i+w6tglkUw/n68BMwLpCfIU4yBzXP6JfZxi4qJ4Urv 1qfTEcDnjTdN8Eg4XgEaDnfO7XNYqQ22BuCFgLEfJGCSxcA7ta1k6S3nyijI4druQjI7 ISQ5lENdVSm8wZem59gfv1vC7DY7zGrAGm9cZpL65G7np+BMOQLZHGtZDVTGwe3fwl9n FNEA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530bmqjZtvSUpSUfJDEMniAkWH7VPZE/zMxlp1xRu/NOMrPdblJz GsTH/NHrnIkWZS+tMpSZ6YzeeiElsyRgn1OzZ/c= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyMmPd7Zlhmsut+cJ1F2sAC1EtugXRFtM20zaEVRmhLHWCYoZVqg89PgTFLrxnI3j2r3GC4bDUalUzPLRZkLDk= X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:b691:b029:12d:2b6:d116 with SMTP id c17-20020a170902b691b029012d02b6d116mr6811773pls.71.1633047080992; Thu, 30 Sep 2021 17:11:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87h7e2qk0m.fsf@alphapapa.net> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=209.85.216.49; envelope-from=stefankangas@gmail.com; helo=mail-pj1-f49.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -13 X-Spam_score: -1.4 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.249, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:275939 Archived-At: Adam Porter writes: > FWIW, this is a dramatically annoying problem that has prevented me from > using Nameless. :) Either the code is indented incorrectly while I'm > editing it with Nameless activated, or it's indented incorrectly in the > saved file. And having incorrect indentation is more annoying than > longer symbols, for me. This is an occasional annoyance with nameless, indeed. But it doesn't strike me as one that fundamentally can't be solved. nameless should "just" change the indentation as needed with some clever use of overlays, or something.