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From: Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>
To: Brett Gilio <brettg@posteo.net>
Cc: "Basil L. Contovounesios" <contovob@tcd.ie>,
	34390@debbugs.gnu.org, Phillip Lord <phillip.lord@russet.org.uk>
Subject: bug#34390: package.el says "Obsolete" when it means "No Longer Used"
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2019 18:45:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADwFkm=rg1UPhBo4mX4aaHbrY71b_=D9oW9vhq_juXSSuenhOA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87pns2p6ny.fsf@russet.org.uk>

Brett Gilio <brettg@posteo.net> writes:

> Basil L. Contovounesios writes:
>
>> phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) writes:
>>
>>> Currently package.el reports packages as "Obsolete" when this is
>>> probably not a good choice of word, as it is being interpreted as "no
>>> longer in active development".
>>>
>>> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-emacs/2019-02/msg00070.html
>>>
>>> It happens when several versions of a package are installed. Consider
>>> this report from M-x package-list-packages
>>>
>>>   dash               2.12.0        obsolete              A modern list library for Emacs
>>>   eglot 1.4 incompat gnu Client for Language Server Protocol (LSP) servers
>>>   kiwix              0.4.0         incompat   melpa-s... Kiwix interface and support.
>>>
>>>
>>> Dash is showing here are obsolete because in my installation 2.15.0 is installed.
>>>
>>>
>>>   company            0.9.9         dependency            Modular text completion framework
>>>   dash               2.15.0        dependency            A modern list library for Emacs
>>>   dash-functional 2.15.0 dependency Collection of useful combinators for Emacs
>>> Lisp
>>>   direnv             1.4.0         dependency            direnv support for emacs
>>>
>>>
>>> The problem is "obsolete" line appears quite some distance away from
>>> other line which shows dash is installed.
>>>
>>> I would suggested "installed but outdated" perhaps. Or "More Recent
>>> Version Installed". Both a bit long.
>>
>> How about "shadowed" or similar?

I think that's the wrong term, because it implies that it is currently unused.

> The Guix package manager uses a term "superseded." I quite find this
> term to be useful and nice.

I guess that could work, but I don't find it very user friendly.

How about "upgradable"?  That makes it clear that it's both installed
and that it can be upgraded.

Best regards,
Stefan Kangas





      parent reply	other threads:[~2019-10-23 16:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-02-08 16:49 bug#34390: package.el says "Obsolete" when it means "No Longer Used" Phillip Lord
2019-02-08 17:10 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-02-08 17:15   ` Brett Gilio
2019-02-08 17:25     ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-02-08 17:16   ` Robert Pluim
2019-02-08 17:42 ` brettg
2019-02-08 22:01   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-02-08 23:50     ` Brett Gilio
2019-10-23 16:45 ` Stefan Kangas [this message]

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