From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#71708: Terminology inconsistencies (1) Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2024 23:09:34 -0700 Message-ID: References: <86plsaje5h.fsf@gnu.org> <5573cde6-8345-43d2-aa96-c980347ea619@gmail.com> <86frt4fdl2.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="24350"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: morf , 71708-done@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 30 08:11:49 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sNnmt-00063g-Kv for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 30 Jun 2024 08:11:47 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sNnmC-000576-85; 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I guess I was put on the wrong footing >> because a) the window is reported by xprop as 'Emacs', b) (as the GDK introspection >> tool reveals) it has a '#emacs-dialog' css ID and c) it looks a bit different from >> the regular file-manager windows on my system. >> >> Anyway, to be fair I didn't call it a bug, but an inconsistency -- though >> admiitedly it isn't even that. >> Or was I wrong to post it on THIS list, and is there a more appropriate list to >> report such possible issues? > > This is the right list, but there's nothing we can do about the text > in the GTK dialogs, and I very much doubt that GTK folks will change > the text to match the Emacs nomenclature. > > So I think this is an inconsistency we will need to live with. I'm therefore closing this bug report.