From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>
To: yarnton@tutanota.com, Gregory Heytings <ghe@sdf.org>
Cc: "Eli Zaretskii" <eliz@gnu.org>,
"Daniel Martín" <mardani29@yahoo.es>,
"Richard Stallman" <rms@gnu.org>,
"Emacs Devel" <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Emacs as a word processor
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2020 20:53:04 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADwFkm=nFtwEYn1vwASW3gikBtTRBQU+YvyNGQ2+eZaTq1tE9w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <MPCH6N0--3-2@tutanota.com>
yarnton--- via "Emacs development discussions." <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
writes:
> Interoperability with docx and odt is harder unless you go down the
> rabbit hole of getting close to feature parity with them. Otherwise it
> will be one-way only.
I don't see why the options are limited to "feature parity" or "one-way
only". I think there can exist a useful half-way house of "two way
support for odt" even if it is vastly more basic than "feature parity".
> IMHO, since Emacs is mostly plain text oriented it is going to be hard
> to go beyond supporting what Org already offers. Which is quite a lot:
> Hierarchical structure, different text formats, figures, tables,
> footnotes, metadata, very flexible exporting capabilities...
FWIW, my ideal UI would be: open an odt file and edit it in Org-mode,
save it again as an odt file. It doesn't matter much to me if some
formatting is removed, as long as the most basic is preserved such as
italics, bold, headings, blockquotes and maybe links.
> One area that could benefit from some improvements is reference
> management. Org offers footnotes, which are not quite the same as
> proper first-class references or citations.
Indeed, this is one of the worst parts of Org-mode now. But I have a
hard time even conceptually dreaming up what an ideal UI would look
like here.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-12-23 2:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-12-22 18:22 Emacs as a word processor Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-12-22 18:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-22 19:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-22 19:37 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-12-22 19:46 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-22 20:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-22 19:32 ` Jean Louis
2020-12-22 19:41 ` Arthur Miller
2020-12-22 19:51 ` Jean Louis
2020-12-22 19:57 ` Arthur Miller
2020-12-22 20:07 ` Qiantan Hong
2020-12-22 20:43 ` Arthur Miller
2020-12-22 20:56 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-12-24 5:49 ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-24 20:57 ` chad
2020-12-25 4:37 ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-25 7:14 ` Emacs as a word processor (ways to convert Word/RTF proprietary files) Jean Louis
2020-12-25 8:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-25 9:58 ` Jean Louis
2020-12-25 12:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-25 13:11 ` Jean Louis
2020-12-25 13:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-27 21:28 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-12-28 7:26 ` Jean Louis
2020-12-28 17:11 ` Drew Adams
2020-12-28 22:19 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-12-29 8:31 ` Jean Louis
2020-12-29 13:27 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-12-28 13:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-28 19:12 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-12-25 13:23 ` Arthur Miller
2020-12-27 9:43 ` Jean Louis
2020-12-25 10:30 ` Yuri Khan
2020-12-26 10:23 ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-26 10:32 ` Sv: " arthur miller
2020-12-26 11:03 ` Yuri Khan
2020-12-26 11:53 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-12-26 12:19 ` Jean Louis
2020-12-27 5:38 ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-25 10:59 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-12-25 13:19 ` Arthur Miller
2020-12-25 14:44 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-12-25 19:41 ` Sv: " arthur miller
2020-12-25 21:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-26 10:13 ` Sv: " arthur miller
2020-12-27 21:08 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-12-25 13:49 ` Jean Louis
2020-12-25 15:02 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-12-26 6:34 ` Jean Louis
2020-12-28 11:44 ` Eric S Fraga
2020-12-28 12:22 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-12-28 12:37 ` Eric S Fraga
2020-12-28 16:25 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-12-29 10:10 ` Eric S Fraga
2020-12-28 13:37 ` [pandoc] (was: Emacs as a word processor (ways to convert Word/RTF proprietary files)) Uwe Brauer
2020-12-28 14:56 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-12-28 15:02 ` [pandoc] Uwe Brauer
2020-12-28 16:33 ` [pandoc] (was: Emacs as a word processor (ways to convert Word/RTF proprietary files)) Tomas Hlavaty
2020-12-28 17:07 ` [pandoc] Uwe Brauer
2020-12-28 18:11 ` [pandoc] Tomas Hlavaty
[not found] ` <X+Xv2f/sQzaWg/B0@protected.rcdrun.com>
2020-12-25 15:07 ` Emacs as a word processor (ways to convert Word/RTF proprietary files) Tomas Hlavaty
2020-12-26 6:35 ` Jean Louis
2020-12-27 21:14 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-12-28 1:39 ` Amin Bandali
2020-12-28 16:38 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-12-26 10:23 ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-26 10:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-27 5:38 ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-26 16:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-27 5:40 ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-28 13:41 ` Uwe Brauer
2020-12-23 4:53 ` Emacs as a word processor David Masterson
2020-12-23 5:26 ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-23 7:52 ` Jean Louis
2020-12-23 8:02 ` Jean Louis
2020-12-23 9:53 ` Arthur Miller
2020-12-23 1:48 ` yarnton--- via Emacs development discussions.
2020-12-23 2:29 ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-23 2:53 ` Stefan Kangas [this message]
2020-12-23 7:25 ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-12-23 17:58 ` yarnton--- via Emacs development discussions.
2020-12-23 18:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-24 3:09 ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-12-25 4:31 ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-25 5:17 ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-12-25 5:18 ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-12-26 10:28 ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-26 11:30 ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-12-23 17:09 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-12-24 5:47 ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-23 10:18 ` Arthur Miller
2020-12-23 4:21 ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-23 4:38 ` Christopher Dimech
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2020-12-24 6:18 Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2020-12-24 6:24 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-02-01 17:00 James Lu
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