From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#58513: describe-function should say that defconst variables are constant Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2022 08:03:10 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87zgdy8ug8.fsf@gnus.org> <8fae3292e6c1b175853b557060d05487@webmail.orcon.net.nz> <87v8om8tok.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="23030"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 58513@debbugs.gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen , Phil Sainty Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 14 15:10:28 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ojKSK-0005lZ-25 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Fri, 14 Oct 2022 08:03:10 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87v8om8tok.fsf@gnus.org> X-Hashcash: 1:20:221014:psainty@orcon.net.nz::MpKdKeQwlCelCNwu:5hgk X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:245439 Archived-At: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > And we could start adding a symbol property saying that a constant is > meant to be constant, and perhaps start warning if people change it, but > that would make things slower for basic things like `setq', so I'm > pretty sure it's not worth it. Yes, incurring a run-time cost doesn't sound worth it, but we could perhaps make the byte-compiler warn about it.