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From: Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>
To: Reuben Thomas <rrt@sc3d.org>
Cc: 18132@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#18132: Time for a smarter dired-guess-shell-alist-default? (dired-x.el)
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2021 06:56:59 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADwFkm=Z+MWgbMnvrGiWo76cMeQ=q1xJHcZ-Uyc9QjThVULhQQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOnWdojTXD0QvKDn8V6x4Unja6qZuZZ3Q1KqqU2yEDLNKRmNig@mail.gmail.com>

Reuben Thomas <rrt@sc3d.org> writes:

> xdg-open uses the underlying desktop system's MIME infrastructure. For a
> GNU system, that would most typically be GNOME, and its "gio open" (or on
> older systems, gvfs-open) command.

I don't see that shooting away blindly to xdg-open is satisfactory; the
user should be able to a) know which command is being run before running
it and b) modify it on the fly.  Maybe I want to open PDF:s first with
one and then another PDF reader to see if it looks the same, just as I
would be able to from a graphical file manager.

Thus, the most important question to my mind is "how can we get the
default command for a file in the best way".

I think ideally we should get this from the system, optionally with
overrides and/or fallbacks from Emacs or the user.  I don't particularly
care if it comes from mailcap, from /usr/share/applications, but we
should preferably pick the "best" one.

Eli says that portability is a concern with mailcap, which is true but
also not something we can't work around.

You say that mailcap is the wrong tool for the job.  (Why?)

I claim that the `xdg-open' script does not seem to solve the problem.

Then I ask: what is the correct tool for the job of finding the command
to run?

Maybe we need try several different things?  I see that `xdg-open' tries
all kinds of different things ("gio open", "gvfs open", "open_generic",
etc.).  But our needs are different: we want the command as a string, we
don't just want to run it.

PS. For the sake of simplicity, I would suggest that we could first
    figure out what to do on GNU/Linux and then we'll see if we can get
    that solution to work elsewhere or if we need to get other things in
    place.





  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-23 13:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-28 18:26 bug#18132: Time for a smarter dired-guess-shell-alist-default? (dired-x.el) Reuben Thomas
2014-07-28 18:44 ` bug#18132: Sample code Reuben Thomas
2014-07-29 23:49 ` bug#18132: Time for a smarter dired-guess-shell-alist-default? (dired-x.el) Juri Linkov
2014-07-30  9:12   ` Reuben Thomas
2014-07-30 16:32     ` Juri Linkov
2014-07-30 16:44       ` Reuben Thomas
2014-08-04 23:45         ` Juri Linkov
2014-08-05  9:41           ` Reuben Thomas
2021-10-23  5:25             ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-23  7:44               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-23  8:16                 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-23  8:34                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-23  9:48                     ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-23 11:48                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-23 13:06                       ` Reuben Thomas via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-10-23 13:20                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-23 13:01                   ` Reuben Thomas via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-10-23 13:56                     ` Stefan Kangas [this message]
2021-10-23 14:03                       ` Reuben Thomas via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-10-23 15:45                         ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-23 17:17                           ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-23 20:53                           ` Reuben Thomas via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-10-24  6:02                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-24  7:56                               ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-23 17:49                                 ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-23 19:40                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-24  7:51                                     ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-24 14:24                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-25 18:10                                         ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-26 10:37                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-27 17:32                                             ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-28 17:05                                               ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-28 17:35                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-29  7:09                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-29 13:07                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-02 17:44                                                       ` Juri Linkov
2023-12-02 18:37                                                         ` Drew Adams
2023-12-03 17:04                                                           ` Juri Linkov
2023-12-03 21:16                                                             ` Drew Adams
2023-12-06 17:28                                                               ` Juri Linkov
2023-12-07 17:33                                                                 ` Juri Linkov
2023-12-07 17:48                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-08  7:37                                                                     ` Juri Linkov
2023-12-08  8:08                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-09 17:13                                                                         ` Juri Linkov
2024-05-22  6:16                                                                           ` Juri Linkov
2024-05-22 12:42                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-23  6:19                                                                               ` Juri Linkov
2024-05-23  7:16                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-23 17:31                                                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2024-05-23 18:15                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-24  6:44                                                                                       ` Juri Linkov
2024-05-24  7:31                                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-24 17:56                                                                                           ` Juri Linkov
2021-10-23 17:57                       ` Howard Melman
2021-10-23 18:29                         ` Juri Linkov
2021-10-23 19:22                           ` bug#18132: [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-10-24 16:35                           ` Howard Melman
2021-10-24 19:08                             ` Juri Linkov
2021-10-24  5:10                       ` Thierry Volpiatto
2014-07-30  3:56 ` Eli Zaretskii

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