From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: My resignation from Emacs development Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2024 08:39:24 -0500 Message-ID: References: <169c6564-4722-4338-a049-5f8f3ce69394@alphapapa.net> <86ldxbofgw.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="40939"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Alan Mackenzie , Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 22 14:40:18 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1tETtR-000ATB-OD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 22 Nov 2024 14:40:17 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tETsg-0006WU-Cu; Fri, 22 Nov 2024 08:39:30 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tETse-0006W5-Ve for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Nov 2024 08:39:29 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-wr1-x42f.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::42f]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tETsd-0002k5-Lh; Fri, 22 Nov 2024 08:39:28 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-wr1-x42f.google.com with SMTP id ffacd0b85a97d-38246333e12so1953066f8f.1; Fri, 22 Nov 2024 05:39:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1732282765; x=1732887565; darn=gnu.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:mime-version:references:in-reply-to :from:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=WaYjzgULLrGir8SbEDt2eBCM5dvyg9m0JXMQrU8nyr0=; b=QCRO0RJnNc6L5K3Hnwc5Am+7wM4G6amYWv8+nx9iwB/O+np5jyZyRVQ6earwvU9yTi FVlbr91CmAzWwpqBcq6O7MSlWcaM3lX5LReJxC5rS2PYkRD0NLs0lmPNFLuATg2kjKeE FF9pWQYcL760Pyr5ClP9EpQDvekiouQQzHA7kG2IOxE86OVVVjAsbqqD9B4NilMPXtyJ pu5pMXQ5bQb4X04pQlCNIc1YdOaJJMh0xzKgKBs//UVugqcY0A9NUXCgKtG4/N4nDzLm xgKQNtctKQTZH8iWB+7WZ1M260eUKg8kGexRR6qH1Tb4lLLMKIMUCrX0vzvDt6ww1LMK Xvpg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1732282765; x=1732887565; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:mime-version:references:in-reply-to :from:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=WaYjzgULLrGir8SbEDt2eBCM5dvyg9m0JXMQrU8nyr0=; b=W6DuLzgD6hrKDea9ir8rBg+zFKm5OUBmcfAZ16bx25B8oqE1NxzAxmP0HgLmivxJ3Z bKdMzpbB7ehd3VPdDnzT9H+OaRBpzoDDkvatibdqyXqnBqf0hIDPWbyN4gXP7dB2vZUf 55rkkZc8nDnJvSn+pfer6g0G1P/at0+280UXgogJKbBxviPBOhtp7x072H83LH8whbRV rLZNUh0LGuHDiK0vzAs+ozNP7Eyq+Efpu3sEVUZ6KVKAT4kRRILW7BqgbKMoC2L8r/jq CQAAr0zzLDh25XUfVYR4xB1Ji8MmVccfwIBUzf6LSEEu9eubUJtqGbXSnWBjPGjE0UIH e4iA== X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCUWQG9cmurVRP5+O2qMwOOI2xMadGed5WTCoSghQu5mcSuyBLVVSbuZ21a/3uALgvKXAvMv@gnu.org X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YynsxJN31yoogmqgKbg5CgDJfEEahGPLIAC9nFj78BYhVVuRspc xeQLs+mUDck5ZM3xM/A+iVyiKjdlX2HTY0MsAbq/KyxudZZgj6t1WeAKArjAooJ0M0ejQwYg5S1 /ezDndLCv/pqJQkZXgCbT+jmAYVaxHQ== X-Gm-Gg: ASbGncsHwXkfJEpQXmtD5WxC0MkGgShUCvxUd5wFJrer2hx5Rb/IiF0ZFgSygvTYCkR sI4FwwIm4txsTEr++b1hBNvo7DPtAqQeJoQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IGXsu8lzyWNTif/r1tZHot/Wt1879d/NZTo3PL3JwiY0VtixIUGb8BPvgZWBofrHkmz/FkkUX1PKJa8UQR/YFo= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6000:154c:b0:382:440e:4e88 with SMTP id ffacd0b85a97d-38260b52679mr2937524f8f.16.1732282765142; Fri, 22 Nov 2024 05:39:25 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Fri, 22 Nov 2024 08:39:24 -0500 In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::42f; envelope-from=stefankangas@gmail.com; helo=mail-wr1-x42f.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:325588 Archived-At: Alan Mackenzie writes: > I have taken the trouble to outline and analyse in detail several places > where Stefan's contributions have given rise to trouble, at least for me > personally, and certainly for some other contributors. Up till now, none > of you, Stefan K, or Andrea have replied with the same level of detail, > or even acknowledged what I wrote. I'm disappointed at this. Please allow for more than 24 hours before drawing any conclusions. Yesterday, I barely had time to read your message, much less reply. I will reply to your message in detail soon.