From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#52870: Is displaying bindings in describe-function useful? Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2022 02:29:22 -0800 Message-ID: References: <83wnjnk0at.fsf@gnu.org> <83lf03jqvr.fsf@gnu.org> <83tueqimwc.fsf@gnu.org> <87bl0dwbrd.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="13613"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 52870@debbugs.gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen , Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 15 11:31:05 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n8gKv-0003OI-7J for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 15 Jan 2022 11:31:05 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54908 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n8gKt-00022i-Kw for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 15 Jan 2022 05:31:03 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:55918) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n8gJu-00020Z-U8 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Jan 2022 05:30:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:46266) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n8gJu-0004BA-KA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Jan 2022 05:30:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n8gJu-0007ua-Eo for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Jan 2022 05:30:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Kangas Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2022 10:30:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 52870 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 52870-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B52870.164224257130336 (code B ref 52870); Sat, 15 Jan 2022 10:30:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 52870) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Jan 2022 10:29:31 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39169 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n8gJP-0007tE-3V for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 15 Jan 2022 05:29:31 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-pf1-f174.google.com ([209.85.210.174]:43882) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n8gJN-0007t1-BZ for 52870@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 15 Jan 2022 05:29:29 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-pf1-f174.google.com with SMTP id 78so5114835pfu.10 for <52870@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 15 Jan 2022 02:29:29 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=RNiEcIgpKJYRvfxdKkDxifd2lDrUWJVJa+viZAReEx8=; b=SvoiG6uIzV+8ohH+wEjhhEGSyo2giQJs3tSF9qrZnA5i6Jzc4HHlt8OYbWqeojzS2j L7tYHt3gePqvzygBGtpNH1pQ3rzhnTRMP/B49ia2yEEQKW4JejLIndI3ups9TuBMeOrI hIjitLd/k8/iFrm42iA8CUYOoBh06sBmuYAbFiytBQqHIFm5TRayhhc+CkBxlob8Et6S IjrNZLXswZAELQd2a8vmtpCAUo8IaGV9tbN05/hx6yrFwNSTY/ceCWVxvq2WC0e1k8mI 4YLzriduaDj0F0iTxaiu+4NWZXuWZ+CLoXW5fmTpqPwG2EN0JBoEyfz3sS0zUkGKxL9A NC+A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532bwlquv/aMQlVm+awhrlUuy/qPjvdjNgnhrjjJprz2UpFUHpQw oaSd8HHZjjEGsyUAJnWfNtDZTVOfo4ommh3kwho= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxMgJLzMjejaw1jDML1vrYH+BwqUrMJBXPPf/02E+LtFsWxcnjwL2FY2lKcyDhWZR41NBqkrUbkIZrXa9id1xI= X-Received: by 2002:aa7:86c9:0:b0:4c2:61c:1888 with SMTP id h9-20020aa786c9000000b004c2061c1888mr10124453pfo.70.1642242563414; Sat, 15 Jan 2022 02:29:23 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Sat, 15 Jan 2022 02:29:22 -0800 In-Reply-To: <87bl0dwbrd.fsf@gnus.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:224283 Archived-At: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: >> The rationale is that hardly anyone ever looks at the "Probably >> introduced" line. Before it is slightly better, but not good enough: >> some doc strings are very long, so the menu-bar bindings will be >> pushed too far. FWIW, I disagree that putting it at the end "pushes it too far". Most docstrings can fit on a single screen so users will quickly learn where to find it. > Perhaps keeping it grouped with the binding info would be good, though. > So: > > It is bound to C-h f and f > It can also be invoked from the menu: "Help Menu" -> "Describe" ... > > or something like that? Sounds good to me.