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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:276433 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > We are currently talking about providing infrastructure for > translation. As long as there's no such infrastructure, talking about > translations and their quality is not useful. We have translations in etc/tutorials and etc/refcards. > Yes, translation of program messages is hard, and there are many bad > translations. But it is not impossible to produce good translations. I don't recall having used the word "impossible". It seems to me that we agree on this point. > No one seriously talks about translating all our documentation. That's good.