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* bug#38199: 27.0.50; [Cairo] Display artifacts (small vertical colored bars)
@ 2019-11-13 19:32 Bastian Beischer
  2019-11-14 13:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Bastian Beischer @ 2019-11-13 19:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 38199

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When emacs is built with cairo I see small display artifacts from time
to time, in particular there are small thin vertical bars, for example,
with the default theme (starting from emacs -Q) I get those bars in the
mode-line and they are always in a cyan color, but it is possible that
other occurences can be observed even with emacs -Q.

In real world usage I have seen these bars in regular buffers, too,
usually they are red and/or blue but that might depend on my theme.

A recipe to produce them (on my machine) is:

1) emacs -Q
2) M-<
3) C-space
4) M->
5) M-w
6) C-y (repeat ten or twenty times)

Then move around in the resulting buffer and after a bit of cursor
movement the vertical lines appear. They are not permanent and often
disappear when the buffer is refreshed.

This issue is not present when emacs is built without cairo.

I attached a screenshot of emacs showing a small vertical cyan bar in
the mode line. produced with the above recipe.


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In GNU Emacs 27.0.50 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.12, cairo version 1.17.3)
 of 2019-11-11 built on bastian-desktop
Repository revision: b6942c0c37a504e00c717c8c74bfa9dcd208c931
Repository branch: master
Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12005000
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* bug#38199: 27.0.50; [Cairo] Display artifacts (small vertical colored bars)
  2019-11-13 19:32 bug#38199: 27.0.50; [Cairo] Display artifacts (small vertical colored bars) Bastian Beischer
@ 2019-11-14 13:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
  2019-11-14 15:33   ` Dmitry Gutov
  2019-11-14 22:30   ` Bastian Beischer
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2019-11-14 13:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bastian Beischer; +Cc: 38199

> From: Bastian Beischer <bastian.beischer@gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2019 20:32:24 +0100
> 
> When emacs is built with cairo I see small display artifacts from time
> to time, in particular there are small thin vertical bars, for example,
> with the default theme (starting from emacs -Q) I get those bars in the
> mode-line and they are always in a cyan color, but it is possible that
> other occurences can be observed even with emacs -Q.
> 
> In real world usage I have seen these bars in regular buffers, too,
> usually they are red and/or blue but that might depend on my theme.
> 
> A recipe to produce them (on my machine) is:
> 
> 1) emacs -Q
> 2) M-<
> 3) C-space
> 4) M->
> 5) M-w
> 6) C-y (repeat ten or twenty times)
> 
> Then move around in the resulting buffer and after a bit of cursor
> movement the vertical lines appear. They are not permanent and often
> disappear when the buffer is refreshed.

Did you try to disable "advanced" or "optimization" features of your
display driver software?  Or upgrade it to a newer version?  The
artifacts your screenshot shows don't look like something Emacs could
produce.

Can someone else reproduce this in a Cairo build?

Thanks.





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* bug#38199: 27.0.50; [Cairo] Display artifacts (small vertical colored bars)
  2019-11-14 13:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2019-11-14 15:33   ` Dmitry Gutov
  2019-11-14 22:30   ` Bastian Beischer
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Dmitry Gutov @ 2019-11-14 15:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eli Zaretskii, Bastian Beischer; +Cc: 38199

On 14.11.2019 15:30, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> Can someone else reproduce this in a Cairo build?

FWIW, I tried and couldn't.

With

In GNU Emacs 27.0.50 (build 13, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 
3.24.8, cairo version 1.16.0)
  of 2019-11-14 built on potemkin
Repository revision: 30e944b66b24254e007381c80237e96c721a127c
Repository branch: master
Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12004000
System Description: Ubuntu 19.04





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* bug#38199: 27.0.50; [Cairo] Display artifacts (small vertical colored bars)
  2019-11-14 13:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
  2019-11-14 15:33   ` Dmitry Gutov
@ 2019-11-14 22:30   ` Bastian Beischer
  2019-11-15  7:59     ` Eli Zaretskii
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Bastian Beischer @ 2019-11-14 22:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 38199

On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 2:30 PM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
>
> > From: Bastian Beischer <bastian.beischer@gmail.com>
> > Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2019 20:32:24 +0100
> >
> > When emacs is built with cairo I see small display artifacts from time
> > to time, in particular there are small thin vertical bars, for example,
> > with the default theme (starting from emacs -Q) I get those bars in the
> > mode-line and they are always in a cyan color, but it is possible that
> > other occurences can be observed even with emacs -Q.
> >
> > In real world usage I have seen these bars in regular buffers, too,
> > usually they are red and/or blue but that might depend on my theme.
> >
> > A recipe to produce them (on my machine) is:
> >
> > 1) emacs -Q
> > 2) M-<
> > 3) C-space
> > 4) M->
> > 5) M-w
> > 6) C-y (repeat ten or twenty times)
> >
> > Then move around in the resulting buffer and after a bit of cursor
> > movement the vertical lines appear. They are not permanent and often
> > disappear when the buffer is refreshed.
>
> Did you try to disable "advanced" or "optimization" features of your
> display driver software?  Or upgrade it to a newer version?  The
> artifacts your screenshot shows don't look like something Emacs could
> produce.

You are right: It could well be a cairo library or driver issue. I am
using the default optimized builds from the Arch Linux x86_64
repository, which means:

cairo: 1.17.2+17+g52a7c79fd-2
Xorg: 1.20.5-4
mesa: 19.2.3-2
linux: 5.3.11.1-1

My GPU is NVIDIA Geforce GTX 285 (nouveau kernel driver, combined with
modesetting / glamor). Should I report a bug against cairo?

>
> Can someone else reproduce this in a Cairo build?
>
> Thanks.





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* bug#38199: 27.0.50; [Cairo] Display artifacts (small vertical colored bars)
  2019-11-14 22:30   ` Bastian Beischer
@ 2019-11-15  7:59     ` Eli Zaretskii
  2019-11-23 13:03       ` Bastian Beischer
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2019-11-15  7:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bastian Beischer; +Cc: 38199

> From: Bastian Beischer <bastian.beischer@gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2019 23:30:32 +0100
> Cc: 38199@debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> > Did you try to disable "advanced" or "optimization" features of your
> > display driver software?  Or upgrade it to a newer version?  The
> > artifacts your screenshot shows don't look like something Emacs could
> > produce.
> 
> You are right: It could well be a cairo library or driver issue. I am
> using the default optimized builds from the Arch Linux x86_64
> repository, which means:
> 
> cairo: 1.17.2+17+g52a7c79fd-2
> Xorg: 1.20.5-4
> mesa: 19.2.3-2
> linux: 5.3.11.1-1
> 
> My GPU is NVIDIA Geforce GTX 285 (nouveau kernel driver, combined with
> modesetting / glamor). Should I report a bug against cairo?

Maybe; it could also be a bug in the NVIDIA drivers.  So before
reporting a Cairo bug, I'd look at the settings of your video driver,
and if there are any "optimization" features there, try to disable
them.





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* bug#38199: 27.0.50; [Cairo] Display artifacts (small vertical colored bars)
  2019-11-15  7:59     ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2019-11-23 13:03       ` Bastian Beischer
  2020-08-25 23:22         ` Stefan Kangas
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Bastian Beischer @ 2019-11-23 13:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 38199

On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 8:59 AM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
>
> > From: Bastian Beischer <bastian.beischer@gmail.com>
> > Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2019 23:30:32 +0100
> > Cc: 38199@debbugs.gnu.org
> >
> > > Did you try to disable "advanced" or "optimization" features of your
> > > display driver software?  Or upgrade it to a newer version?  The
> > > artifacts your screenshot shows don't look like something Emacs could
> > > produce.
> >
> > You are right: It could well be a cairo library or driver issue. I am
> > using the default optimized builds from the Arch Linux x86_64
> > repository, which means:
> >
> > cairo: 1.17.2+17+g52a7c79fd-2
> > Xorg: 1.20.5-4
> > mesa: 19.2.3-2
> > linux: 5.3.11.1-1
> >
> > My GPU is NVIDIA Geforce GTX 285 (nouveau kernel driver, combined with
> > modesetting / glamor). Should I report a bug against cairo?
>
> Maybe; it could also be a bug in the NVIDIA drivers.  So before
> reporting a Cairo bug, I'd look at the settings of your video driver,
> and if there are any "optimization" features there, try to disable
> them.

I have now confirmed the bug on a different PC with an Intel GPU. It
persists when using modesetting and when using xf86-video-intel as
drivers there. So I think it's unlikely that it is a bug in the
driver.

I will now open a cairo issue.





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* bug#38199: 27.0.50; [Cairo] Display artifacts (small vertical colored bars)
  2019-11-23 13:03       ` Bastian Beischer
@ 2020-08-25 23:22         ` Stefan Kangas
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Kangas @ 2020-08-25 23:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bastian Beischer; +Cc: 38199

tags 38199 + notabug
close 38199 28.1
thanks

Bastian Beischer <bastian.beischer@gmail.com> writes:

> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 8:59 AM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
>>
>> > From: Bastian Beischer <bastian.beischer@gmail.com>
>> > Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2019 23:30:32 +0100
>> > Cc: 38199@debbugs.gnu.org
>> >
>> > > Did you try to disable "advanced" or "optimization" features of your
>> > > display driver software?  Or upgrade it to a newer version?  The
>> > > artifacts your screenshot shows don't look like something Emacs could
>> > > produce.
>> >
>> > You are right: It could well be a cairo library or driver issue. I am
>> > using the default optimized builds from the Arch Linux x86_64
>> > repository, which means:
>> >
>> > cairo: 1.17.2+17+g52a7c79fd-2
>> > Xorg: 1.20.5-4
>> > mesa: 19.2.3-2
>> > linux: 5.3.11.1-1
>> >
>> > My GPU is NVIDIA Geforce GTX 285 (nouveau kernel driver, combined with
>> > modesetting / glamor). Should I report a bug against cairo?
>>
>> Maybe; it could also be a bug in the NVIDIA drivers.  So before
>> reporting a Cairo bug, I'd look at the settings of your video driver,
>> and if there are any "optimization" features there, try to disable
>> them.
>
> I have now confirmed the bug on a different PC with an Intel GPU. It
> persists when using modesetting and when using xf86-video-intel as
> drivers there. So I think it's unlikely that it is a bug in the
> driver.
>
> I will now open a cairo issue.

The above discussion indicates this is most likely a bug in cairo and
not in Emacs.  I'm therefore closing this bug report.

If this conclusion is incorrect and this is still an issue, please reply
to this email (use "Reply to all" in your email client) and we can
reopen the bug report.

Best regards,
Stefan Kangas





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