From: Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>
To: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
Cc: 40813@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#40813: [PATCH] Convert some files from outline-mode to org-mode
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 14:19:11 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADwFkm=41H8u3KXbkvdYZnNLhsVa2M=2JZQMxrP4M=fZ4vz-0A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200424113216.42884.qmail@mail.muc.de>
Hi Alan,
Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> writes:
> >> > I believe org-mode is vastly more well-known and arguably also more
> >> > intuitive to users.
>
> I'm certain that's not right. Anybody who can use Emacs at all knows
> outline-mode well enough to use it effectively.
FWIW, I never learned outline-mode properly. I gave up at some point
and learned org-mode instead, which was a much smoother process
(mostly due to much better default keybindings). But I started using
Emacs as late as 2004, so I guess YMMV.
> Very much so. If these files' modes are changed to org-mode, then
> sooner or later, org-mode enthusiasts will start filling them up with
> obscure org-mode features, such that only an "org-mode elite" will be
> able to edit these files.
Which features do you think people would be interested in using
besides the navigational commands? I can't think of any.
> Org-mode is difficult to learn and opaque (see discussions of its
> documentation in other threads). It is thus unsuitable for basic text
> files.
I obviously have a different opinion. :-)
> I'm strongly against this change happening. But if it is to happen, it
> should be drawn to people's attention by having a discussion in
> emacs-devel.
Yup, makes sense. I'll do that.
Best regards,
Stefan Kangas
prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-04-24 12:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-04-24 9:42 bug#40813: [PATCH] Convert some files from outline-mode to org-mode Stefan Kangas
2020-04-24 10:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-24 10:39 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-04-24 11:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-24 12:11 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-04-24 12:27 ` Robert Pluim
2020-04-24 12:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-24 18:16 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-05-07 19:16 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-04-24 13:59 ` Noam Postavsky
2020-04-25 3:34 ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-25 6:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-26 3:24 ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-29 14:49 ` Robert Pluim
[not found] ` <mailman.1087.1587724805.3066.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2020-04-24 11:32 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-24 12:19 ` Stefan Kangas [this message]
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