From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#68963: 30.0.50; [PATCH] Split Eshell built-in command documentation into subsections Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2024 12:22:55 -0800 Message-ID: References: <7c6e1a19-8657-f72a-4372-c1caa34bc4c5@gmail.com> <86mssdymon.fsf@gnu.org> <7ba997dc-80ed-1915-0953-e013fa8a7162@gmail.com> <86eddozb72.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="33120"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 68963@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii , Jim Porter Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 07 21:24:18 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rXoSv-0008OM-LS for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Wed, 07 Feb 2024 12:22:56 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Wed, 7 Feb 2024 12:22:55 -0800 In-Reply-To: <86eddozb72.fsf@gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:279581 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2024 20:26:08 -0800 >> Cc: 68963@debbugs.gnu.org >> From: Jim Porter >> >> The use-case I was imagining for this was a person thinking, "What >> commands does Eshell have for working with [say] directories?" > > But then subdivision into sections has other problems. For example, > who says that 'ls' is only "for directories", ln, mv, and rm are only > "for files", and info is "for searching"? A person can reasonably > think about these (and others) differently. And why "basename" is not > about files? FWIW, I tend to agree with Eli: having all built-in commands on one page also provides some benefit, especially to power users (the likely audience for eshell) that are already familiar with a standard Unix shell and just wants to know "what's different about Eshell" or "what does Eshell provide". However, I agree that the section is a bit long and unwieldy. To make it shorter, how about moving the section "Defining new built-in commands" to some other part of the manual instead? For example some chapter that talks about "Extending Eshell" or similar. Just my two cents.