From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?Q?Elias_M=C3=A5rtenson?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Tabs Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2019 18:11:36 +0800 Message-ID: References: <87a7bpysm8.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87o903dc2j.fsf@mail.linkov.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000036efaf05918f331d" Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="122368"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: martin rudalics , emacs-devel , Juri Linkov To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 02 12:12:00 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1i4jJX-000VbT-DT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Sep 2019 12:11:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34596 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1i4jJW-0000kU-3d for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Sep 2019 06:11:58 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53574) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1i4jJP-0000kN-CX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Sep 2019 06:11:52 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1i4jJO-0007Vz-BF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Sep 2019 06:11:51 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-io1-xd2c.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::d2c]:42458) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1i4jJO-0007Vi-72 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Sep 2019 06:11:50 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-io1-xd2c.google.com with SMTP id n197so26148464iod.9 for ; Mon, 02 Sep 2019 03:11:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=JfIPJsCHn5x2cTZ3yQJpZu8OO9HEaxGNCouGbNis+sw=; b=S7t3l9ecba9G6GyatVRx35cJ5GfSine0MuY0c6DRpfJhmunrJ6I8CPA9as6oCvTvvC Wcyyz1WcOit3dwvWmjpWmrl5ODVDOgSwhvfxqu5HH4NdHitV8azwdonJZwyvJ/zN1GPz F2ucU819/PukgKlE9YaqeNlcmcRvE51SqW85ymyjCPNvLG3yhjlTzfI5vn7KA2/6AsQH ruqhnjPYdqQyQdFJfwXXu5Nj7S0Xw4ZTdpFFc8+wN87MeuNGGjjcbeoB9KgN4YL86jxg PVTZ4vdJ+vusjYSytO7e1BGxqVXedxaaTdxW1x4chqWNduVNfoLchAJHnF0Qj6m+ruyP jEGg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=JfIPJsCHn5x2cTZ3yQJpZu8OO9HEaxGNCouGbNis+sw=; b=El5MDei1OBx5Vb6oELQK+EZMQtYK5tGf3lkL2M8BGgbvaYa5z5VqjhvI8c2xC7JsfH QNU/UaJEcLe0LnVmCrhvA9721DBOcZkM3Zy6IZtJF4vD5FFVkjg8gxUVc3Gl7HMdsFsZ 42Bn5vnAcw/QNMvnMiHDSkwv/tsg+Tai5N/1iCkTXMs5LxnDOfDMtDXvheJfeZsRj7LK o3hlEpCVOGta3UXSmdO2m9HSt1njtvNO4m1BkkD5WCuZlkoQKjd4wZ2WUYE7EgxkHg/5 zFWbF14upYyiNXZ8iAa8M8ni9UIOlhseN94LdiF5/N2dHWtMnV7wPO42GXYCH+6IscOU BQGg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVqg4gHt15NbZVaHjdZxorDUzsDwoYlK4LLiKEHP+naeFGqKxNO hqKFy14Urt2AZL17dy9CUG5FkSvMdkKSk0bkhBQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzYx4KL/8/9A3JljfC7FqHY7O5LkPeofrrto3K7r42GdP4Cg93sv3yw7IJ4fVdEgUHuLSXU8KyDAyGqvPIXxE4= X-Received: by 2002:a5e:aa1a:: with SMTP id s26mr31158055ioe.96.1567419109140; Mon, 02 Sep 2019 03:11:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::d2c X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:239769 Archived-At: --00000000000036efaf05918f331d Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2 Sep 2019 at 08:41, Stefan Kangas wrote: (FWIW, I find the names tab-bar-mode and global-tab-line-mode > confusingly similar. Could we find better and more descriptive names? > For example, global-tab-line-mode could be global-buffer-tab-mode.) > This may be the very definition of a bikeshedding comment, but I do feel the need ask the question: Is it truly wise to have the word =E2=80=9Ctab=E2=80=9D as part of the name= of this feature? The word =E2=80=9Ctab=E2=80=9D (when not referring to codepoint U+= 0009 CHARACTER TABULATION) usually refers to the specific visual indication that resembles a row of tabs in old filing cabinets. The feature itself doesn't really have that much to do with tabs of either kind. I'm raising this because I initially had no idea what this was about (thinking it referred to U+0009) and even after figuring it out, I'm still confused by the names of the functions and modes. A term that uniquely describes the actual feature would be very helpful in reducing confusion. Especially among people who have never heard about the functionality before. Regards, Elias --00000000000036efaf05918f331d Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Mon, 2 Sep 2019 at 08:41, Stefan Kanga= s <stefan@marxist.se> wrote:=

(FWIW, I find the names tab-bar-mode and= global-tab-line-mode
confusingly similar.=C2=A0 Could we find better and more descriptive names?=
=C2=A0For example, global-tab-line-mode could be global-buffer-tab-mode.)

This may be the very definition of a bik= eshedding comment, but I do feel the need ask the question:

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Is it truly wise to have the word =E2=80=9Ctab=E2=80=9D as part o= f the name of this feature? The word =E2=80=9Ctab=E2=80=9D (when not referr= ing to codepoint U+0009 CHARACTER TABULATION) usually refers to the specifi= c visual indication that resembles a row of tabs in old filing cabinets. Th= e feature itself doesn't really have that much to do with tabs of eithe= r kind.

I'm raising this because I initially h= ad no idea what this was about (thinking it referred to U+0009) and even af= ter figuring it out, I'm still confused by the names of the functions a= nd modes.

A term that uniquely describes the a= ctual feature would be very helpful in reducing confusion. Especially among= people who have never heard about the functionality before.

=
Regards,
Elias
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