On 30 December 2016 at 19:05, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:

> I open IELM in one window, and an empty buffer "z" in another, and type
> the
> > following:
> >
> > (loop
> >   repeat 10
> >   do (make-thread (lambda ()
> >                     (let ((n (random 10)))
> >                       (with-current-buffer "z"
> >                         (sleep-for n)
> >                         (insert (format "Foo:%d\n" n)))))))
> >
> > Here, I'd expect to see the "z" buffer being updated at the corresponding
> > times. I.e. the message "Foo:4" should be displayed after 4 seconds. This
> > is not what I see. Instead the messages appear in batches (i.e. several
> > rows appearing at the same time).
>
> And what do the messages that appear together say in the %d part?  Do
> they all show the same value?
>

No. They show wildly different values. For example, during one test, after
roughly 8 seconds, I got 7 or so messages with number ranging from 2 to 8.

One interesting fact is that if I replace ‘sleep-for’ with ‘sit-for’, then
the updates come at exactly the expected time. In other words, the
unpredictable behaviour where keypresses would randomly make the ‘sit-for’
expire doesn't happen anymore.

> The following seems to be a problem with lexically bound lambda functions
> > used in a thread. The following example illustrates the problem:
> >
> > (let ((x "test"))
> >   (make-thread (lambda ()
> >                  (with-current-buffer "z"
> >                    (insert x)))))
> >
> > I would expect this to insert "test" into the buffer, but instead nothing
> > happens. Removing the reference to the variable "x" in the lambda makes
> it
> > work.
>
> Isn't the above expected?  If not, why not?
>

Never mind. This one was caused by me. Please ignore it.

The problem was that ‘lexical-binding’ was set to nil in my IELM buffer.

Regards,
Elias