From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?Q?Elias_M=C3=A5rtenson?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: delete-selection-mode as default Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 11:59:16 +0800 Message-ID: References: <83k1nxvm5j.fsf@gnu.org> <87sh2ih0bp.fsf@fastmail.fm> <770f48a8-664a-40ae-8e03-19f6aad248b6@default> <20180910181615.GA4829@ACM> <874lev3bq4.fsf@toy.adminart.net> <20180912131602.GA5582@ACM> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000e540c90575b8bb01" X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1536811054 27092 195.159.176.226 (13 Sep 2018 03:57:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 03:57:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: hw@adminart.net, spacibba@aol.com, joostkremers@fastmail.fm, Noam Postavsky , emacs-devel , Eli Zaretskii , Drew Adams , phillip.lord@russet.org.uk To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 13 05:57:29 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g0Iky-0006wT-VM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 13 Sep 2018 05:57:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40181 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g0In5-0000AU-Da for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 12 Sep 2018 23:59:39 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38674) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g0Imz-0000AO-1A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Sep 2018 23:59:33 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g0Imx-0008F0-TC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Sep 2018 23:59:32 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-io1-xd2b.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::d2b]:37388) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g0Imx-0008EP-AC; Wed, 12 Sep 2018 23:59:31 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-io1-xd2b.google.com with SMTP id v14-v6so2067878iob.4; Wed, 12 Sep 2018 20:59:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=38WLDx75LsJXR3ESte1BH7RT8qA10ZmVS17tqbfwDYY=; b=mrKn7z7YCAMRV43i8uA2xQTAQUzYsl4xicYzcta6uMYK0lWnNDW5dsKK/tq6g35kIq hqD3G5ktkTcrwJhOwHQShrcwAwhDy/imp/Ppz88JWqjQenISMl1GXtUq/pKMWd0AaPKY Pg7Hmv2az+9iJ5ZbfdzRN5MupES8zJCtewgbX0ZxzJIYX6wWfnsASD91IfaExh6PlQ3y kyoQc2iImnC4JUXhqcCeHCzoesTmC8IpGyMzIaKHr00cApB2TSgVpEUGuTldhp5wAH3+ 1eN4gBgLQ0ixX7UsSCPPzwiUMM8MQ5MMXzR8bipDQu+dyllDx4OiUaQmz+KI8mdXtaH2 /EwQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=38WLDx75LsJXR3ESte1BH7RT8qA10ZmVS17tqbfwDYY=; b=oK9CEI76Suyue7kNA9FQ+rs8Oi/TY3Zs9e73LqVPN71Ah/ilWj2/5iG0mS51u8O81W H0YASuT5HH+c72ciqe5hbWv+MqsWMhhB2YyLhBzOFjpS7nUH1q4UutxTFG0TuiaIbUCX a8JSisdcjMGw6wzlSDsKwilOonA14JkWr4EMii1OEcoaQHsjGP1iZUl+snMu7sFs4BbP v4X5X6IaqKqWzSEHKC6qHncXpkHgMGQ/cHMLf1POUHhy2lPjXS2t0J8KQHpjCckOYSvj 1eJL0UMLrEU8LMFa2i8x1pt7V/kirD/bWxR/uGyN8bbrhpw+ZEkbz3ST+pcNWR+z7u7F 4TSQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51DN5eoMbHr7cmaKOb0PA4GjUQt+JjBSGTa5H773FcyAaLtqJkOO 0HKMpVvD/NNZetJoWCqqOJRSrDTeqof27GggRvc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0VdZfffQ7CObBdVwXCbjUZVag2CpmW6/3rCIRJKpt5ivbzVw83cEPDFubWFi4qWh7Lo8Em7TP5YyrEmvDexfYnyM= X-Received: by 2002:a6b:440f:: with SMTP id r15-v6mr4785092ioa.107.1536811170346; Wed, 12 Sep 2018 20:59:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20180912131602.GA5582@ACM> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::d2b X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:229729 Archived-At: --000000000000e540c90575b8bb01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 at 21:20, Alan Mackenzie wrote: On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 00:34:11 +0200, hw wrote: > > Drew Adams writes: > > > Highlighting regions should be separated from whether they are active > > or not, and I don't want hidden regions, either. > > I do. I want point and mark, and the region between them to be regarded > as "the" region. That's it. I currently (almost) have that option. > Thank you for saying this. I agree with you 100%, and the overloading of the region concept into something that does multiple different things while at the same time dismantles the beautiful simplicity and power of the =E2= =80=9Cone region at all times=E2=80=9D concept is disheartening to me. Regards, Elias --000000000000e540c90575b8bb01 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 at 21:20, Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> wrote:

On Wed, Sep 12, 2018= at 00:34:11 +0200, hw wrote:
> Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> writes:

> Highlighting regions should be separated from whether they are active<= br> > or not, and I don't want hidden regions, either.

I do.=C2=A0 I want point and mark, and the region between them to be regard= ed
as "the" region.=C2=A0 That's it.=C2=A0 I currently (almost) = have that option.

Thank you for saying this. I agree with yo= u 100%, and the overloading of the region concept into something that does = multiple different things while at the same time dismantles the beautiful s= implicity and power of the =E2=80=9Cone region at all times=E2=80=9D concep= t is disheartening to me.

Regards,
Elias=
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