From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Eduardo Ochs Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Consistent vanilla Emacs Date: Thu, 14 May 2020 17:58:14 -0300 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="87748"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: Dmitry Gutov , =?UTF-8?B?Sm/Do28gVMOhdm9yYQ==?= , emacs-devel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu May 14 22:59:42 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jZKxC-000Mi3-K4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 14 May 2020 22:59:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52388 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jZKxB-0007Ut-KW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 14 May 2020 16:59:41 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45954) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jZKw2-0006QC-V9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 May 2020 16:58:30 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pj1-x102f.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::102f]:50294) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jZKw1-0006QK-7v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 May 2020 16:58:30 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pj1-x102f.google.com with SMTP id t9so13124969pjw.0 for ; Thu, 14 May 2020 13:58:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=HJ/G2Aa6KMsIfRTzpWLNb6zpMy4ihCJuJvPOSk1MPoA=; b=qIecZbRkPyBwBt1/ht1o+bRCIHlGRwP953tcJiwCwqDmbLwp00T/7aZDxh+gbaaUxs keAjdih333iu2v3OJcc3TEzmQ+zZh11ofR4w9fFVQU04cgZRxq0ply8M0i9daTG6KQ5k U7bJeU0GnBwjch54UJZJGaQlpBttLUmp3Ea+Gqn6+C+zyKwCazVDla7tVJiDFG2ZjDU3 BDinzNbd3PbglS/JlaqY3zre2Gg9Fcadb+6V3SsJma8U7+QqJBgd12TzpasdPmRHx66d 7QaUGclds7fmhiixJM6vtfzGQACtd9xsmkWSTkT0PGwLM57eFr1HRB48mZnnH2sxbLFa 5DyQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=HJ/G2Aa6KMsIfRTzpWLNb6zpMy4ihCJuJvPOSk1MPoA=; b=T9addHAFP9SVg2IElWq22t8r46MlLS5aJK9kaUQev6QEiX1ftC5PwIgskPYt513vA0 cD75sMyt7kV1/sbd1YEEaAF+hZ730eP+h6z8QmVWeNt5ffbN/0FqitNnoFeDs3zP1e+D n4/BsQKluTE6cjVtwZZbZFistvIPs/8H4Km0ekyPewdnZQlLQpAJ6BDuosylfe2OM7It jPpAlCy3Lf7P4WHmWWSbBfV6YuBxW3WYXB0VKxLnkv7o+Vfv7b60q66D0WEX8kbWcTGr brInza+N7VbJBtQEOQlw0JAYCVcEQ6BHsVzklNBPf6twOIYHuq82hxGakGbqTpothTuO j8fg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531dl3Q3UIYbIpuucV5npU5uYaU/yYrSpNxb7iTyfft6hO3t5jpH 7Qpt0/ytleQitaWmtluvdYS2ow2DkSHRpgdIafqnYJNEQiA= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzYdN5v5+1sTAn8Msp83NdAynyy8DGHYfz7fFEJCrB8LFjiJR4yCG1EGK69h+XPcJY8JoFPK2/g9gCAUOfXexo= X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:c113:: with SMTP id 19mr391997pli.95.1589489907728; Thu, 14 May 2020 13:58:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::102f; envelope-from=eduardoochs@gmail.com; helo=mail-pj1-x102f.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: No matching host in p0f cache. That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:250294 Archived-At: An alternative startup screen installable from ELPA can be useful to new users that can get sporadic step-by-step help from old-timers. Cheers, Eduardo Ochs http://angg.twu.net/emacsconf2019.html http://angg.twu.net/emacs.html On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 17:16, Dmitry Gutov wrote: > > On 14.05.2020 22:41, Jo=C3=A3o T=C3=A1vora wrote: > > This is very pretty, and very relevant. It'd be nice if you could make > > this a GNU ELPA package with no dependencies but the Emacs core > > itself. > > An improved startup-screen as an ELPA package? That doesn't sound very > useful. It's for new users, isn't it? >