From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eduardo Ochs Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: How users start programming in Emacs Lisp... 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They can be used together and do not interfere on one another - but I didn't learn enough of Org-capture to start to work on a way to integrate them... [[]], E. On Tue, 1 Jun 2021, 07:30 Arthur Miller, wrote: > Tomas Hlavaty writes: > > > On Sun 30 May 2021 at 13:43, Arthur Miller > wrote: > >> Or maybe your eev already does that. Still didn't try it. It seems so > >> conceptually big to me so I never get to it. > > > > I can only recommend eev. It is one of the best ideas I've seen > > recently. Some things are hard to get into, but getting started with > > eev-beginner is not that difficult. My executable notes are now eepitch > > blocks and I find it much better and way simpler than anything org-mode. > > Some things could be improved but it is not hard to redefine a few > > functions. The biggest issue I have with eepitch is that it uses > > non-printable character as a marker which does not tunnel through many > > protocols; for example notice how the example in the email from Eduardo > > has the eepitch block stripped. > > Thank you for the advice! Does it integrate well with org-capture? > > Simpler than org sounds like a good selling point indeed! > >