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From: Eduardo Ochs <eduardoochs@gmail.com>
To: arthur miller <arthur.miller@live.com>
Cc: "emacs-devel@gnu.org" <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Sv: Sv: Christmas wish: Literate Elisp
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2019 02:24:59 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADs++6iFC6CequWQgbPhxO2X+85Q1N9GzLVUAY4CKx52mRVUJA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <VI1P194MB0429A5894D1BDD0AC20D7305962C0@VI1P194MB0429.EURP194.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

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Sorry, I should have written a longer message, with most, or all,
parts of it written in the first person...

In my experience hanging out at the #emacs channel at Freenode and
asking for help or hints on elisp is fun, and it's easy to test ideas
interactively with C-x C-e... asking for help on the C side of Emacs
is not so fun - patching the C source is considered arcane knowledge
(<- my impression!) and fewer people will be able to discuss that and
to help... also, I don't know how to recompile Emacs after a change in
a .c and restart it in less that 30 seconds (slow machine here - I use
an old ThinkPad with LibreBoot) - in fact I don't think I've ever
patched the C source before! Here's the script that I used to test
Arthur's patch:

  # Download the attachments of this message:
  #   https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2019-12/msg00556.html
  # in /tmp/:
  cd /tmp/
  wget -O bytecomp.patch
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2019-12/txtkIKP0OSag7.txt
  wget -O lread.patch
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2019-12/txttFA8rLAthl.txt
  wget -O chatty.el
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2019-12/txt6f3pEXMWNI.txt

  # Apply the patches in /tmp/:
  cd /tmp/
  cp -v ~/bigsrc/emacs/src/lread.c                 /tmp/
  cp -v ~/bigsrc/emacs/lisp/emacs-lisp/bytecomp.el /tmp/
  # (find-man "1 patch")
  patch lread.c     lread.patch
  patch bytecomp.el bytecomp.patch

  # If they applied cleanly, copy the patched files back:
  cp -v /tmp/lread.c     ~/bigsrc/emacs/src/lread.c
  cp -v /tmp/bytecomp.el ~/bigsrc/emacs/lisp/emacs-lisp/bytecomp.el

  # Rebuild Emacs.
  # I usually skip some of the steps below - my way of executing
  # these scripts line by line from Emacs is explained here:
  #   http://angg.twu.net/emacsconf2019.html
  #   http://angg.twu.net/eev-intros/find-eev-quick-intro.html#6

  rm -Rfv  ~/bigsrc/emacs/
  mkdir -p ~/bigsrc/emacs/
  cd       ~/bigsrc/
  git clone git://git.sv.gnu.org/emacs

  cd       ~/bigsrc/emacs/
  time ./autogen.sh   2>&1 | tee oa
  time ./configure    2>&1 | tee oc
  time make bootstrap 2>&1 | tee omb
  time make           2>&1 | tee om

  # Run the new Emacs:
  ~/bigsrc/emacs/src/emacs


Cheers,
  Eduardo Ochs
  http://angg.twu.net/#eev


On Fri, 20 Dec 2019 at 22:18, arthur miller <arthur.miller@live.com> wrote:

> > I was expecting that Arthur would come up with a preprocessor written
> > in (I guess) 30 lines of Elisp...
>
> Interesting 🙂. If you have red my previous mails to this list you
> might have noticed that I am not an elisp guru. Stefan has
> outlined two possible ways how this could be implemented in
> Elisp, if you follow his advice I am sure you will have a working
> solution you can present to us. I don't care how many lines of code
> it will take.
>
> (...)
>

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  reply	other threads:[~2019-12-21  5:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-12-12 15:45 Christmas wish: Literate Elisp arthur miller
2019-12-12 17:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-12-14  4:40   ` Sv: " arthur miller
2019-12-14 14:08     ` Stefan Monnier
2019-12-15  8:37       ` arthur miller
2019-12-16 12:01       ` Sv: " arthur miller
2019-12-16 13:41         ` Stefan Monnier
2019-12-16 14:02           ` Sv: " arthur miller
2019-12-16 16:07             ` Jonathan Leech-Pepin
2019-12-17  2:09               ` arthur miller
2019-12-17 11:06                 ` Adam Porter
2019-12-18 16:29                   ` Sv: " arthur miller
2019-12-18 18:49                     ` Adam Porter
2019-12-18 20:04                       ` Sv: " arthur miller
2019-12-18 23:18                         ` Adam Porter
2019-12-18 23:53                           ` Sv: " arthur miller
2019-12-20 15:58                             ` Unknown
2019-12-18 21:18                       ` Sv: Sv: Sv: " Stefan Monnier
2019-12-18 22:43                         ` Christmas wish: Literate Elisp (Intro) VanL
2019-12-19  0:05                           ` Sv: " arthur miller
2019-12-18 22:59                         ` Sv: Sv: Sv: Christmas wish: Literate Elisp Adam Porter
2019-12-18 23:18                           ` Sv: " arthur miller
2019-12-18 23:52                             ` Adam Porter
2019-12-19  0:02                               ` Sv: " arthur miller
2019-12-19  0:42                                 ` chad
2019-12-19  1:50                                   ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-12-20  0:55                                     ` Sv: " arthur miller
2019-12-20 15:00                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-12-20 15:50                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2019-12-20 15:50                                         ` Sv: " arthur miller
2019-12-20 16:17                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2019-12-20 16:34                                             ` Eduardo Ochs
2019-12-21  1:18                                               ` Sv: " arthur miller
2019-12-21  5:24                                                 ` Eduardo Ochs [this message]
2019-12-21  5:52                                                   ` arthur miller
     [not found]                                                   ` <VI1P194MB042965777086C4466B7FF5EC962C0@VI1P194MB0429.EURP194.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
2019-12-21 15:29                                                     ` arthur miller
     [not found]                                             ` <VI1P194MB0429A123183C15AF8EC3956B962C0@VI1P194MB0429.EURP194.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
     [not found]                                               ` <jwv7e2pln3s.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
     [not found]                                                 ` <VI1P194MB0429F37A29A2720037CAD9F9962C0@VI1P194MB0429.EURP194.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
2019-12-22  7:01                                                   ` Sv: " arthur miller
2019-12-20 16:51   ` Phillip Lord
2019-12-21  1:16     ` Tim Cross
2019-12-21  4:24       ` Sv: " arthur miller
2019-12-21  6:41         ` Tim Cross
2019-12-21  9:39           ` VanL
2019-12-21 14:17             ` Sv: " arthur miller
2019-12-14  4:16 ` Richard Stallman
2019-12-14  5:05   ` Sv: " arthur miller

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