From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eduardo Ochs Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Resources for an old newbie ? 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> > E.g., I just tried to install helm and am completely baffled by the info > and error messages I=E2=80=99m getting: > > INFO: Loading /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/site-start.d/lilypond-init.el > (source)... > > While I do occasionally edit lilypond files in Emacs, I was not aware tha= t > I had integrated it into Emacs (I mostly use Frescobaldi), and lilypond i= s > not in my init.el file. > > ERROR: find: =E2=80=98./emacs/helm=E2=80=99: No such file or directory > > Since I invoked > ./emacs/helm/emacs-helm.sh -P /usr/bin/emacs-28.2 > from my home directory, I would expect it to know where it is. > > There must be some extremely basic knowledge that I have completely misse= d > =E2=80=A6 any pointers? > > Thanks! > Fred Hi Fred, if your intent is to learn the basics of Emacs Lisp, take a look here: http://anggtwu.net/eev-intros/find-elisp-intro.html Some people love that mini-tutorial and some people hate it - but I thought that I had to share it anyway... =3DP Cheers, Eduardo Ochs http://anggtwu.net/#eev http://anggtwu.net/eepitch.html