From: Eduardo Ochs <eduardoochs@gmail.com>
To: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@web.de>
Cc: Christopher Dimech <dimech@gmx.com>, help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Morally equivalent
Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2022 20:47:29 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADs++6gz7NNh=oUfhhxnwtF+MFib1i=2KExnf6u_Ebk9fiTxFQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87h703e445.fsf@web.de>
On Sun, 16 Oct 2022 at 20:34, Michael Heerdegen
<michael_heerdegen@web.de> wrote:
>
> Christopher Dimech <dimech@gmx.com> writes:
>
> > The problem was about the wording, if it turns out Stefan wrote it, then
> > he is not above anybody else. The problem is that in some important ways,
> > things are not precise.
>
> Nothing in human language is precise. For me it was precise enough to
> understand the meaning perfectly.
>
> > And users do not like that.
>
> I liked it. Most people like it much less when Stefan tries to be more
> precise.
>
> Honestly, the only problem with that wording is that it might make
> people wonder whether it is some sort of technical term, which it is not
> really, so it can potentially confuse people.
>
> Michael.
It is "some sort of technical term":
"A source of tension between Philosophers of Mathematics and
Mathematicians is the fact that each group feels ignored by the
other; daily mathematical practice seems barely affected by the
questions the Philosophers are considering. In this talk I will
describe an issue that does have an impact on mathematical practice,
and a philosophical stance on mathematics that is detectable in the
work of practising mathematicians.
"No doubt controversially, I will call this issue `morality', but
the term is not of my coining: there are mathematicians across the
world who use the word `morally' to great effect in private, and I
propose that there should be a public theory of what they mean by
this. The issue arises because proofs, despite being revered as the
backbone of mathematical truth, often contribute very little to a
mathematician's understanding. `Moral' considerations, however,
contribute a great deal. I will first describe what these `moral'
considerations might be, and why mathematicians have appropriated
the word `morality' for this notion. However, not all mathematicians
are concerned with such notions, and I will give a characterisation
of `moralist' mathematics and `moralist' mathematicians, and discuss
the development of `morality' in individuals and in mathematics as a
whole. Fi- nally, I will propose a theory for standardising or
universalising a system of mathematical morality, and discuss how
this might help in the development of good mathematics."
http://eugeniacheng.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/cheng-morality.pdf
[[]] =/,
Eduardo Ochs
http://angg.twu.net/#eev
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Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-10-16 2:45 Morally equivalent John Haman
2022-10-16 2:55 ` Eduardo Ochs
2022-10-16 3:39 ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-10-16 14:29 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-10-16 14:34 ` Heime
2022-10-16 14:42 ` Dr Rainer Woitok
2022-10-16 15:02 ` Drew Adams
2022-10-16 16:20 ` tomas
2022-10-16 19:27 ` Bob Newell
2022-10-16 19:43 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-10-16 20:24 ` Bob Newell
2022-10-16 19:58 ` Christopher Dimech
2022-10-16 23:10 ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-10-16 23:17 ` Christopher Dimech
2022-10-16 23:32 ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-10-16 23:47 ` Eduardo Ochs [this message]
2022-10-17 1:13 ` Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-10-18 10:44 ` Dr Rainer Woitok
2022-10-17 0:00 ` Christopher Dimech
2022-10-17 0:10 ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-10-17 0:32 ` Christopher Dimech
2022-10-17 0:53 ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-10-17 1:18 ` Christopher Dimech
2022-10-17 4:52 ` tomas
2022-10-17 5:27 ` Christopher Dimech
2022-10-20 14:08 ` Akib Azmain Turja
2022-10-20 16:24 ` Christopher Dimech
2022-10-20 18:29 ` tomas
2022-10-20 19:54 ` Christopher Dimech
2022-10-17 4:49 ` Akib Azmain Turja
2022-10-17 6:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-17 7:48 ` tomas
2022-10-17 9:15 ` Thibaut Verron
2022-10-17 23:01 ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2022-10-18 1:01 ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-10-18 1:07 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-10-18 2:39 ` Po Lu
2022-10-18 3:50 ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-10-18 14:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-18 16:50 ` Christopher Dimech
2022-10-18 23:11 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-10-20 14:05 ` Akib Azmain Turja
2022-10-20 17:14 ` Christopher Dimech
2022-10-17 15:42 ` Christopher Dimech
2022-10-17 11:47 ` Alessandro Bertulli
2022-10-23 10:16 ` Will Mengarini
2022-10-24 14:46 ` Marcin Borkowski
2022-10-24 21:06 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-10-24 21:05 ` Emanuel Berg
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