From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eduardo Ochs Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Lambdas for beginners broken - help, please Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2024 06:44:27 -0300 Message-ID: References: <87sevz0w8q.fsf@web.de> <87ttgezhej.fsf@web.de> <86v80u59s9.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="15979"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 25 11:45:16 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sWv2C-0003wU-6o for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 25 Jul 2024 11:45:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sWv1h-0005pH-1J; Thu, 25 Jul 2024 05:44:45 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sWv1f-0005p7-Ey for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Jul 2024 05:44:43 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-yw1-x1134.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::1134]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sWv1d-0006lg-Pc; Thu, 25 Jul 2024 05:44:43 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-yw1-x1134.google.com with SMTP id 00721157ae682-663dd13c0bbso7129027b3.1; Thu, 25 Jul 2024 02:44:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1721900680; x=1722505480; darn=gnu.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=36syTxmkSnaC+ZhZ766iO+RF/C9Wj6BJpm0QznTq7wk=; b=j1qjtVtt3YPJK8SS/55PZd/kJJKsM3pZpyMayrhqvTMdIOo/Lq8tvCmKPLxqDJl3Ep rnEbRZPDoN5YtN4axJnvg309HXRBAFOrdSJ8hTBP04MKykEF0+mPtXWch97LaJara3hx JDRFG9RyX0TOrCkoBeThr7k42B1D/dAkFGL+eVc2LZlKT7UHT3hJ5Ap+K3T8CHVewC3I v+YojVEUpY82Aw1Y7w1kqrbkm1hT34udQ1WOIe6gkHemUTtNIyqRfTERbqT1n5CQlens /CWYaWOGVaE8epEc/1lWwHJdQuXV5Zur2+k1lpk3f+JHAvC5uZbVIV3DOW5g4vn6OofY 62rQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1721900680; x=1722505480; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=36syTxmkSnaC+ZhZ766iO+RF/C9Wj6BJpm0QznTq7wk=; b=M3xZJ7OBee1BCEDQRhLjPidM/OHltpjE1pyaCUw5ev3bFFb/KhOs8TNbUxPt3T9aah optHHfItYpM0RT43c5pAU6ULB514yKjTEKz/D89BowdWdkvUBmBsuvWYqrvJnptjL1EA GJC4WZHkySls2WGDLGjD52E3WCWygfGKlkR9pDyKDG4KaKdQ39uBSMRocLANvqBkfvzL Tj0A/ZSBjUTnUJwm99ZYMfHyawnJYwnBHK0fuQfa6MS7wi3MOgZkSTKW1C4U+ftUVrqH ya7oz++zC3DY6i8Kq8f6KQTI1HfNUUkE2+Q2lIp4MqgFPfRcQ2SyynNoJf0oSeRPiLRY jyOg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YyNnomKCdZQp+QmIPvIxBAREQdvn88eAyvPhIZWUOvH8LADwK6l 3caJiKXo1lthER6DwMbl+c7K1gYvxj66rssopMjnN0Ie34G18UWgRIsCzZtafR6GNYwgNVi9uOV XYyhNJoMMPdU2JdAUMZA7+BQTlzvrDacR X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IGzuzbpm05Y9qAtt2NjU+FmZaOmWYb2kj3AzZMNDkehbV4ttc6ZYn63MON2L0pmqXBvUwEJ7hgdDAATElH+U3g= X-Received: by 2002:a81:844c:0:b0:632:7161:d16c with SMTP id 00721157ae682-67514c47c13mr23769277b3.28.1721900679777; Thu, 25 Jul 2024 02:44:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <86v80u59s9.fsf@gnu.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::1134; envelope-from=eduardoochs@gmail.com; helo=mail-yw1-x1134.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:147362 Archived-At: On Thu, 25 Jul 2024 at 02:19, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2024 22:03:48 +0200 > > From: Michael Heerdegen via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor > > > > Agreed, this is at least misleading. Stefan, Eli? > > What is misleading? > > I admit that I don't have a clear understanding of the issue: I don't > understand what Eduardo wants to do in the first place, nor which > version of Emacs broke what he did or why. So maybe wait for Stefan > to chime in. Hi Eli, lambda used to be: self-quoting in dynamic binding, non-self-quoting in lexical binding. Now lambda is: non-self-quoting in dynamic binding, non-self-quoting in lexical binding. So its docstring needs to be updated. Cheers, Eduardo