From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eduardo Ochs Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Workshop to save M$ Windows users: updates Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2021 03:58:19 -0300 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="19664"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: help-gnu-emacs Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 12 08:08:25 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mlQff-0004uE-7j for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 12 Nov 2021 08:08:23 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48768 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mlQfe-0005qr-6w for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 12 Nov 2021 02:08:22 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:48472) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mlQdG-0002Vx-Ni for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Nov 2021 02:05:54 -0500 Original-Received: from [2607:f8b0:4864:20::22e] (port=43781 helo=mail-oi1-x22e.google.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mlQdC-0000f7-8S for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Nov 2021 02:05:54 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-oi1-x22e.google.com with SMTP id o4so16284888oia.10 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 2021 23:05:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=sVIbpCZ/Td+Lp93d9GPxEFhJreC2bGGmSpbYIeH2fP0=; b=dS769yWW7fCdzHk0RRs0we8ggFUikHSVtib6ppuq+4BJVjLIK4X/9U8/bGEGpNXYar fyoRlUdOqjJodlWbzljU1UWgkq6rY50XHauR/9g64pRS+Ag0muluF5Ic5vVHn2edjCry qn1Dg72hg1TaUKfbL+nT526lcsoU3nC9iK5fNd88eThA5SIRhwbBsR1fMWIj8Teund8Y fjYT/tGZ/0lnXfH6t8WPGbNC/cNAIxxtK++tBYvGl2BdJa/Oz3u57M4Iz2PfCNIH7elR uqr7otwVC88aRBHj6yCP/lWcNupvL+dSrNOKruykCXyUoeJBy824++rJFZxD10pB8htN EEFg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=sVIbpCZ/Td+Lp93d9GPxEFhJreC2bGGmSpbYIeH2fP0=; b=RMeBc0SajDITGVMVadx3alEr+GYHambZl0uX3Jv5Z3Ptvh2IqFeXm4j/FBiVvVESqs S6zQ+JLCO5ijnhXZ+Zeq6Tr7hBltoHrIAtQ1fZMjhRpWaOSjC3NxS+W1Za9AWx+exTgG /SaIE00dDLJ81xg138bBpM4yxCz/SSXcqT/gFemhiCpyH4oB1xRkEc0wrV/D5qX0ayp+ bjNCcjPPLdFY4GuL0rW7XRWMdrWEGZVFSSkQgVo8gnQ+al9NZrvnjfQnIc6B/M49jZq5 rO0i2R8OsPmK4dkUPL3rlEC3TwIsRApqpD0fBW1EMVnSg+5JjRTQNnpVzk7n84XP1yvF pqzA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531IA28QMYTVergvNqoDSBiOy0KrblLFFS6EkuIE/9Agx6Wht7aO yZRd/3N2gqMf2zG5OYDst0eC4cWl6Du2rQsK/AyGMlkKsSeMVw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyyaCc+wtC+IBICDlokiA5l2so8rL0VYOJiX3lWCRfV8ALNg6SIJ8InYKcHN5jjaVT/cGY51PPMMFrvEWVR4KE= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:4306:: with SMTP id q6mr15738632pjg.17.1636700310497; Thu, 11 Nov 2021 22:58:30 -0800 (PST) X-Host-Lookup-Failed: Reverse DNS lookup failed for 2607:f8b0:4864:20::22e (failed) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::22e; envelope-from=eduardoochs@gmail.com; helo=mail-oi1-x22e.google.com X-Spam_score_int: 6 X-Spam_score: 0.6 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (0.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_40=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, PDS_HP_HELO_NORDNS=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RDNS_NONE=0.793, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:134528 Archived-At: Hi all, some time ago I announced, in these e-mails, https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-emacs/2021-10/msg00037.html https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-emacs/2021-10/msg00045.html that I was preparing a workshop "to save M$ Windows users". Here are some updates about it. It happened in the last weekend. Only six people attended the workshop itself, but in the weeks before the workshop some friends of mine helped me by testing my material - on Windows!!! - and I rewrote it several times. After the workshop I wrote/rewrote lots of things again, and now I have a summary of the new status of things here: http://angg.twu.net/2021-workshop.html Some of the people who helped me with the tests are friends who are doing PhDs, and they tend to feel guilty when they are not learning new _concepts_. They find the tutorials about Emacs-the-editor quite boring and they found my stuff about Emacs-the-Lisp-environment quite fun. Several of them volunteered to help with the next tests and they told me that they want to attend the next incarnation of the workshop. So: =) =) =) Cheers, Eduardo Ochs http://angg.twu.net/#eev http://angg.twu.net/emacsconf2021.html http://angg.twu.net/2021-workshop.html