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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:310535 Archived-At: I could of course be COMPLETELY wrong about this and apologies if I am, as I did not know TTN "in person" but only via emails over the years. I am only drawing conclusions which might or might not be incorrect. On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 5:57=E2=80=AFPM Drew Adams = wrote: > > > Indeed sad news, and I am very sorry to hear this. I wondered > > what happened to Gnuvola, and unfortunately now I know. > > > > TTN was not a "he" but a "she" as far as I know. Certainly > > this is attested to by her name. In Viet Nam the middle name > > "Thi" is given to women. For men it would have been "Van". > > Given that last names come first in that country, she would be > > called Nguyen Thi Thien. > > > > RIP, TTN. Your unique humor and many contributions will be > > missed. You couldn't have been very old and your passing is a > > loss to us all. > > (I too blindly presumed she was he.) > > A true free spirit. Something fresh each time she wrote. --=20 Bob Newell Honolulu, Hawai`i Via Linux/Emacs/Gnus/BBDB.