From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bob Newell Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [External] : Re: Goodbye to Thien-Thi Nguyen Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2023 12:02:17 -1000 Message-ID: References: <87edj61y3q.fsf@gnu.org> <87ledcpodr.fsf@k-7.ch> <875y4fht1n.amneicvuf@esjsgal.rxfpy.com> <87sf7hfuq6.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="22835"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Drew Adams , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Amin Bandali Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 16 00:03:15 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qhGu9-0005fR-Hr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 16 Sep 2023 00:03:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qhGtY-0006Qo-6C; Fri, 15 Sep 2023 18:02:36 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qhGtW-0006QD-9W for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Sep 2023 18:02:34 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wm1-x333.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::333]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qhGtT-00081A-4I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Sep 2023 18:02:34 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-wm1-x333.google.com with SMTP id 5b1f17b1804b1-403004a96a4so29256825e9.3 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2023 15:02:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bobnewell-net.20230601.gappssmtp.com; s=20230601; t=1694815349; x=1695420149; darn=gnu.org; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=pFGSnqNRgiY9oqab4VBZ/hsqRZtQqCZiT4f5gbCsQhE=; b=xjuKOuijVSqUOc81+RX+2W4j7x7lKQ/4VM5yaDgrFINwNz7O68jZbGhx0VYG+kBF0R 16rBRtanX1WOOl5dKK4lpfM2ChqhVKinUoHa4vDCmLRNAmSsv50nrMibaaF8LiyVWX9p Tr3sePaCYCyTw/QfSpWGcIAwvtdFZj1UjYqkUFKGy+mmcb4WJG5Fg+SvmVxJbt8XgDyp pu91wR1y/uSeSZ8RX2KbTEwokXi7szedAMlR2rNJEkm4sldVOkRbQXZjuz+3dc+hSI4W 0K6O5BYjitO/LmQrKAjYbO2sYGBFVz2mSMXmcCf6udqx7SN7E3WUFPhnugMp1/54Z1yQ F6BQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1694815349; x=1695420149; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=pFGSnqNRgiY9oqab4VBZ/hsqRZtQqCZiT4f5gbCsQhE=; b=qJrezUjQ7STMRoD/IiVlV+aHPQIVidAiKOwucQn6FtWjPC0wqP35YK17SQoa8nbYZO AqYn8pOfpnCNLiJl1/lWYzzccvMM/MagcjIMDtEIXLBAB3+idnRAYDLSFY92/OVeD2pb 2FPrF67FO+J9nbiT4oI8GWxJVzsFMbOPxKtDoyI0RjD4aaI5AzyXgm1QXFYjeHt0g91P nmhYttukYFVjtxLRZSkcn0Sc5nhchDEMG2D/KfqrH6GaEvtgK2dth2mLeMKWv4m0hjcs EBskT0O0JUsAKpwNeN+dYc6yUgtfg7jBEJe9MoGbFo4VWatOrQ8tlTpfWE+4vcLfH0L0 qAmw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YzhVlP/8yR2Y/7xns3XQoDih1/QbgEdGc9EoLf+/HykmeiVkLFp A9KfoZ0ggc6jm1vBM7O/dBbwEuubWmsxohzFrpo6LA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IEu3vouzC697RYcYBg9OiVrSFv+d5IgY9t43mN21zfaM2Pq6tr4MhSNvT5Np5OEWwc3oauIkluWRQkEIZGT/xQ= X-Received: by 2002:a5d:534c:0:b0:317:6edb:6138 with SMTP id t12-20020a5d534c000000b003176edb6138mr2471568wrv.62.1694815348831; Fri, 15 Sep 2023 15:02:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87sf7hfuq6.fsf@gnu.org> Received-SPF: none client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::333; envelope-from=bobnewell@bobnewell.net; helo=mail-wm1-x333.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:310609 Archived-At: Amin, thank you so much for the clarification. I was conjecturing based on what I know about Vietnamese naming conventions. "Thi" is very unusual as a male name as I am told (by Vietnamese). But certainly none of this detracts from TTN's quirky and ever-present sense of humor and the many, many contributtions. On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 2:45=E2=80=AFPM Amin Bandali wrot= e: > > Hi Bob, all, > > Thanks for your replies, and for sharing and helping keep Thien-Thi's > memory alive. > > However, Thien-Thi/ttn was in fact a "he": ttn's mastodon profile > bio starts with "Sono un Programmatore" (masculine) - as opposed to > e.g. "una programmatrice" (feminine) - and ttn referred to himself as > a husband and father in his writings. I'd also seen photos of ttn, > and several other GNU hackers who knew ttn (likely much better than > I did) refer to ttn using the he/him pronouns. > > Hope this helps. > > -a --=20 Bob Newell Honolulu, Hawai`i Via Linux/Emacs/Gnus/BBDB.