2014/1/9 Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>

> > users can get the impression that Emacs is not for them because it's
> weird.
> > If they in just the first half hour of using Emacs meet several such
> things
> > they may conclude that working with Emacs will continue to be like this;
> > now and then it will turn out that it doesn't work as "expected" and that
> > there are new names for everything, etc.  Why not use That Other Editor
> > that some other people suggested instead?
>
> Why not, indeed?  Problem solved.
>

Then you are talking about another problem than I am. Functionality (and
attitudes) that turn away those people is indeed a problem for Emacs. It is
sometimes direct, but often indirect (they don't even try Emacs because a
distro maintainer thought that it shouldn't be installed by default). We
want those users. Especially the part of them that would have become
developers.

(And _you_ are not using That Other Editor why?  Did you perhaps spend
> more than 1/2 hour learning This Old Editor?)
>

This seems irrelevant to me. What is your point?