post-self-insert-hook and last-command:

post-self-insert-hook and last-command:

[T.V. Raman]

I'm trying to use post-self-insert-hook to speak characters as
they are typed in emacspeak --- rather than what I have done for
the last 18 years which was to execute emacspeak's own
emacspeak-self-insert-command.  It all works (almost) -- except
that the speech feedback is called in situations other than  when
the user executes self-insert-command. The usual emacspeak
technique of advising has never worked for this case since
self-insert-command is a builtin.

So to limit the calling of speech feedback to cases of
self-insert-command,
I added a test at the top of my speech feedback function  of the
form
(eq last-command self-insert-command)
but this doesn't work -- since last-command gets apparently gets
set after post-self-insert-hook gets run --- at least that is my
guess based on what I observe:

With post-self-insert-hook set to call speech feedback if
(eq last-command self-insert-command) I  dont hear spoken
feedback for the first invocation of self-insert-command.



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Re: post-self-insert-hook and last-command:

[Stefan Monnier]

> emacspeak-self-insert-command.  It all works (almost) -- except
> that the speech feedback is called in situations other than  when
> the user executes self-insert-command. The usual emacspeak
> technique of advising has never worked for this case since
> self-insert-command is a builtin.

I wonder which calls to self-insert-command are problematic.

> (eq last-command self-insert-command)

Why last-command rather than this-command?
But note that if you test this-command, you'll miss most of the
electric-foo commands (which don't use post-self-insert-hook but
instead define new commands that then call self-insert-command).


        Stefan

post-self-insert-hook and last-command:

[T.V. Raman]

Stehane, will try this-command -- not clear which calls cause the
chatter, but with the new code installed, emacs chatters more
than it used to as it loads my .emacs.  Since this is a
substantial change in how emacspeak has done things over 18
years, I suspect it'll take some testing.

The electric commands are already advised to speak, and I'm
leaving those advice fragments in place.
-- 
Best Regards,
--raman

-- 
Best Regards,
--raman


On 5/27/12, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> wrote:
>> emacspeak-self-insert-command.  It all works (almost) -- except
>> that the speech feedback is called in situations other than  when
>> the user executes self-insert-command. The usual emacspeak
>> technique of advising has never worked for this case since
>> self-insert-command is a builtin.
>
> I wonder which calls to self-insert-command are problematic.
>
>> (eq last-command self-insert-command)
>
> Why last-command rather than this-command?
> But note that if you test this-command, you'll miss most of the
> electric-foo commands (which don't use post-self-insert-hook but
> instead define new commands that then call self-insert-command).
>
>
>         Stefan
>