From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "T.V. Raman" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs as word processor Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2013 16:17:14 -0800 Message-ID: References: <87r4adfwot.fsf@earlgrey.lan> <874n6aowfc.fsf@dod.no> <87r49eyo3j.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1387153039 4520 80.91.229.3 (16 Dec 2013 00:17:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 00:17:19 +0000 (UTC) To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , Steinar Bang , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 16 01:17:25 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VsLsB-0001Yx-Bm for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 16 Dec 2013 01:17:23 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52997 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VsLsA-0003U2-JK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 15 Dec 2013 19:17:22 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33742) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VsLs7-0003Tw-Kv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Dec 2013 19:17:20 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VsLs3-0005uF-Oq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Dec 2013 19:17:19 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-oa0-x230.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4003:c02::230]:46297) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VsLs3-0005uB-Jk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Dec 2013 19:17:15 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-oa0-f48.google.com with SMTP id l6so4303518oag.35 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2013 16:17:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=eRBinSnCCLMZR6kQOFkG7F1JBi8DFKsc2Lgq6HwkKJc=; b=WxRIWrGUadiM5URpxW7LdbMg/d0e3flqW6wbelNcwfASFAqFfZEFGi7YeR2A+ZDzwK hXQ5RL0sw6pNc3y/+IWHFl3t6ZX9C0Ex8GckxjLm3MFJtLguAiiqwJkuxaOV/xW1RVJq r1FHpYxoasZMaC5q5+j03qCs38s9RIgZ3I2ZcGMnlOWzU2+QG44uDK9mW2fNfqLBH9rr 2ue6+psyAYupo6+X/fEnvDZdB5y5Wy00YfroxIu2S/4iPGJ+BlTrDXQhPO0L1PFpan51 cidJ+6r1tZOVljYfmU1VJ901yPqfem0eHwByNsH7DuJNDKG+D+P3l+GZNl8JxzYcdapT KaPg== X-Received: by 10.60.33.196 with SMTP id t4mr580oei.81.1387153034882; Sun, 15 Dec 2013 16:17:14 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.182.112.42 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Dec 2013 16:17:14 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87r49eyo3j.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4003:c02::230 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:166448 Archived-At: I spent about 6 years (2000 -- 2006) investing in XMl hoping that it would give us s-expressions -- sadly it gave everything but. To me the living proof of this is that in 2013, I write org files by hand -- in 2001 when I was still dreaming the xml will give us s-expressions dream, I wrote xml and html by hand - the zenith was nxml-mode -- but though nxml-mode is a marvellous piece of work, xml dragged in far too much of the old sgml baggage, without bringing much new to the party -- -- -- On 12/15/13, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Steinar Bang writes: > > > FWIW I really would have liked to see an s-expression based text > > document file format see actual use. > > XML! > > > >