From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "T.V. Raman" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs as word processor Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2013 08:32:33 -0800 Message-ID: References: <87li022ml2.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1386089020 13843 80.91.229.3 (3 Dec 2013 16:43:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2013 16:43:40 +0000 (UTC) To: Jambunathan K , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ren=E9_Kyllingstad?= , Hendrik Boom , "Emacs Dev [emacs-devel]" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 03 17:43:46 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Vnt4a-0007uW-Ha for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 03 Dec 2013 17:43:44 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43573 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vnt4a-0003A8-2t for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 03 Dec 2013 11:43:44 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44639) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vnstr-0005Lp-CS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Dec 2013 11:32:44 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vnstm-00016M-NL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Dec 2013 11:32:39 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-ob0-x230.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4003:c01::230]:61093) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vnstm-00016H-If for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Dec 2013 11:32:34 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-ob0-f176.google.com with SMTP id va2so14693254obc.35 for ; Tue, 03 Dec 2013 08:32:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=jTIiockJg+fV3d0JeCWrSpDYftno8bBBy9Ksn1Y0rpQ=; b=uGIud0NWbb3BAq9SrHRqK6JqY0RURfmfoorgQh7oXVCbGLqqeG4PhxVeEtu0F48sAm TJdrAQwE3qsAYa17ax1U+PKJsyEWtrK5kuA1nEPDgLi6NptxQ31y3wSo3LN6kas2ih8U J1sNU//y/I/048oynIW5f1HVvTogMPYBvSfKk6uRW55yRQ0+EVyyeU3AabW/Y9W5XQzf /IlESliW7/2QyecmC/ItsU7zboF/tUjq4yV/BvqgCi7JzBAiLHPKkyOjqFt9yguIbGND sAoCv/IVmshJyKumBqWlnhk99u01oy0xRfxsUxeLKwor/VqYlb1XHf3uhHbOzlwWBW0/ CJgg== X-Received: by 10.60.37.33 with SMTP id v1mr39413942oej.2.1386088353779; Tue, 03 Dec 2013 08:32:33 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.182.112.42 with HTTP; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 08:32:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87li022ml2.fsf@gmail.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4003:c01::230 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:166041 Archived-At: In the long run, I believe all of markdown, org, rst and any other form of text files with some level of embedded markup will survive the test of time in the following sense: 1. Content created using these will survive and be usable 20 years from now even if those specific processors disappear. I fail to hold the same confidence about word-processor formats, even if those choose XML as a serialization -- though at one point I hoped that XML would indeed help move that ball forward. See this article "Fancy Color Paper Universe" http://emacspeak.sourceforge.net/publications/colored-paper.html (it's only 2 pages) thatI wrote in 2000. Nearly 15 years later, the only post-script I would add is that much to my disappointment, the Web too has turned into one more fancy colored piece of paper. --=20 --=20 On 12/3/13, Jambunathan K wrote: > Ren=E9 Kyllingstad writes: > >> What about making some version of markdown the storage format? > > I suppose you aren't a Org-mode user or you feel that markdown is > superior (for what values of superior?) to Org-mode. > > Org-mode, is the de-facto markup format for Emacs users. Emacs has > rst.el. Vanilla Emacs doesn't have font-lock support for markdown. So > the existing support infrastructure surrouding Org-mode markup is much > far ahead of markdown. > > ps: I am not opposed to markdown code. Given a choice, Org-mode should > get priority treatment. > >