From: Nikolai Weibull <now@disu.se>
To: "Tu, Do" <solidius4747@gmail.com>
Cc: Emacs Users <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: A package in a league of its own: Helm
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 19:25:51 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADdV=Mu166S81uYHavxf3JdDCcixNWRHtyP_AKBqzfud0y7ciw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0e52cfc6-d6ed-4b45-bbd3-2cdd13fcc91b@googlegroups.com>
On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 6:59 PM, Tu, Do <solidius4747@gmail.com> wrote:
I seem to prefer ido for exactly the opposite reasons:
> I think helm-find-files is much better than stock ido-find-file or even ido-find-file because:
>
> - It has fuzzy matching by default. You have to install flx to get fuzzy matching in ido.
Ido comes with Emacs, which is a big plus. Flx can be installed from
marmalade repo.
> - Some people find that Ido horizontal listing is messy, so they create `ido-vertical-mode` for cleaner looking. With Helm, you get this by default with its interface. If you worry the Helm buffer is a bit big, you can always customize its size.
Configuring ido for vertical output requires one line of code:
(setq ido-decorations (quote ("\n" "" "\n" "\n…" "[" "]" " [No match]"
" [Matched]" " [Not readable]" " [Too big]" " [Confirm]")))
> - It has highlighting on candidates depend on types: directory has a color, plain file has a color, executable has a color, shell script has a color.
I don’t select what file I want to open based on what color it has.
If I know what I’m looking for, I don’t need visual aides to find it.
If I don’t know what I’m looking for, I’ll open Dired.
> - Depends on what file type your highlighting candidate is, Helm opens it appropriately. For example, if you RET on a directory, Helm opens dired; if you RET on a file, Helm opens that file. You can also customize the application to open the files. Stock find-file at least can open directory; Ido simply can't.
C-d in Ido opens the currently selected directory.
> - You can open multiple files with helm-find-files by marking with C-SPC and press RET. If you want to everything at current directory, you can use M-a to mark all then RET. You can even use wildcard expression like stock find-file
If I want to work on multiple files at once, Dired does that for me.
> - Helm has a list of actions to apply on your files: checksum file, open file externally, switch to eshell, grep, diff...
Again, Dired helps me out here.
> - Helm is compatible with both Linux and Windows path. Ido can't; you have to drop into stock find-file.
I’m not sure if this is actually true, but you can always use slash as
a path separator on Windows if Ido can’t handle backslash (which I
wouldn’t hold against it).
My overall feeling when I looked at Helm when this thread appeared was
that there’s already packages that do what Helm does that come with
Emacs: Dired, Ibuffer, and Ido. Sure, Helm can interface with
Delicious, my web browser, and so on, and if that’s something you want
to do, then Helm is great, but for me, Helm is trying to sell me stuff
that I simply don’t need or want.
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Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-08-29 4:18 A package in a league of its own: Helm solidius4747
2014-08-29 5:49 ` Guide for package use?(was A package in a league of its own: Helm) Rusi
2014-08-29 6:17 ` solidius4747
2014-08-29 13:36 ` A package in a league of its own: Helm Óscar Fuentes
[not found] ` <mailman.7830.1409319420.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-08-29 14:03 ` solidius4747
2014-08-29 15:06 ` solidius4747
2014-08-29 16:48 ` Óscar Fuentes
[not found] ` <mailman.7852.1409330926.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-08-29 17:08 ` solidius4747
2014-08-29 18:03 ` Óscar Fuentes
[not found] ` <mailman.7861.1409335444.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-08-30 1:49 ` solidius4747
2014-08-30 3:33 ` Óscar Fuentes
[not found] ` <mailman.7892.1409369651.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-08-30 3:55 ` solidius4747
2014-09-01 16:01 ` Phillip Lord
2014-09-01 16:49 ` York Zhao
2014-09-02 13:06 ` Phillip Lord
[not found] ` <mailman.8044.1409590146.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-09-01 16:59 ` Tu, Do
2014-09-01 17:25 ` Nikolai Weibull [this message]
2014-09-01 17:28 ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-09-01 17:40 ` York Zhao
2014-09-01 20:37 ` Michael Heerdegen
2014-09-02 0:27 ` York Zhao
2014-09-02 1:40 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2014-09-02 1:56 ` York Zhao
2014-09-02 23:15 ` Tak Kunihiro
[not found] ` <mailman.8046.1409592357.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-09-02 8:21 ` Tu, Do
2014-09-02 13:27 ` Phillip Lord
[not found] ` <mailman.8039.1409587302.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-09-01 16:43 ` Tu, Do
2014-09-02 13:19 ` Phillip Lord
2014-09-02 14:13 ` York Zhao
2014-09-02 14:20 ` Phillip Lord
2014-09-02 17:03 ` York Zhao
2014-09-03 9:58 ` Phillip Lord
[not found] ` <mailman.8183.1409738348.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-09-03 10:19 ` Tu, Do
[not found] ` <mailman.8134.1409677438.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-09-02 17:11 ` Tu, Do
2014-09-02 17:32 ` York Zhao
2014-09-02 18:15 ` Tu
2014-09-03 0:35 ` York Zhao
[not found] ` <mailman.8166.1409704538.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-09-03 3:50 ` Tu, Do
[not found] ` <mailman.8106.1409664004.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-09-02 14:32 ` Tu, Do
2014-09-03 10:43 ` Phillip Lord
2014-08-31 9:09 ` Ernesto Durante
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