From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nikolai Weibull Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Upcoming loss of usability of Emacs source files and Emacs. Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 15:08:37 +0200 Message-ID: References: <20150615142237.GA3517@acm.fritz.box> <87y4jkhqh5.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <557F3C22.4060909@cs.ucla.edu> <5580D356.4050708@cs.ucla.edu> <87si9qonxb.fsf@gnu.org> <55826DCC.9040404@cs.ucla.edu> <55850208.3080605@cs.ucla.edu> <5585C279.3030607@cs.ucla.edu> <55871590.8010406@cs.ucla.edu> <83vbefhihy.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1435064938 31628 80.91.229.3 (23 Jun 2015 13:08:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 13:08:58 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eggert@cs.ucla.edu, Emacs Developers , tsdh@gnu.org, acm@muc.de, Eli Zaretskii , "Stephen J. Turnbull" To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 23 15:08:52 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Z7NwY-00050U-JF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 15:08:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45280 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z7NwX-00033j-Jn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 09:08:49 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52381) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z7NwU-00033T-0M for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 09:08:46 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z7NwT-0004Pd-7d for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 09:08:45 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wg0-x235.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c00::235]:32973) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z7NwM-0004O7-9C; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 09:08:38 -0400 Original-Received: by wgck11 with SMTP id k11so9242512wgc.0; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 06:08:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=plSu2axj5ypNBeUvl8fr5oxMKRL/5kRX0I90VZ6ylUM=; b=oBDZUypONYnfDedTLi5b1UGuskaDn9sCTHwEgX5BQQOGTG0M4A9HDRJFXRkeBDv+K9 5kkgkm9o/LDartiUi4pnNgGKmbhF2pBP4VLeglkpeMf89Wl7phlYjseH8MI9KWRpoRrO bGHZC4PMmj6YFUz6d+SXUFEist00/DWFuBH7fVCpqnxyxE+/xXJXs+A+zUSisSVf87EJ zXBUXrePkqAJFk55TN/eG9coPrzNWKv+Ia7NSQIjxvUvW11Py8b7FIXESKv1QAWkoMya qtD9Z3uu5RNsqJl8s2jHHqggwOG5YFDHRBGiHB8aMlxtJAz25KdHseHMkSJIBLlZsk6x mzMQ== X-Received: by 10.181.25.234 with SMTP id it10mr3376985wid.41.1435064917758; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 06:08:37 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.194.123.37 with HTTP; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 06:08:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Google-Sender-Auth: ifjSXGuCuIMC4z3NmvXi5XtpEQ8 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c00::235 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:187412 Archived-At: On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 2:37 PM, Richard Stallman wrote: > > > For instance, how will this affect developers whose terminals won't > > > display curly quotes, in editing the source code? > > > How does Emacs display curly quotes on such terminals? > > > In those cases, we use a display table to display them as their ASCII > > equivalents. > Are the ASCII equivalents of the two curly braces ` and '? I assume so, even though the true =E2=80=9Cequivalents=E2=80=9D are =E2=80= =98'=E2=80=99 and =E2=80=98'=E2=80=99. ASCII doesn=E2=80=99t have a unique left and right single (or double) quotation mark, instead employing a straight =E2=80=9Cbastardization=E2=80= =9D of one. > That is not a grave problem, but it is a problem. Great pun, Richard :-)