From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Radon Rosborough Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Some developement questions Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2018 19:24:36 -0600 Message-ID: References: <87sh36inql.fsf@himinbjorg.adminart.net> <8336v6cvem.fsf@gnu.org> <8736v6icgt.fsf@himinbjorg.adminart.net> <83tvnmb958.fsf@gnu.org> <877ekigiiw.fsf@himinbjorg.adminart.net> <837ekhb2me.fsf@gnu.org> <87zhxcbmtr.fsf@himinbjorg.adminart.net> <83in409lub.fsf@gnu.org> <871sanb71j.fsf@himinbjorg.adminart.net> <87k1oeaofu.fsf@ada> <20180825103413.gbm5stsl67j6weow@Ergus> <83lg8u770n.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1535247527 4575 195.159.176.226 (26 Aug 2018 01:38:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2018 01:38:47 +0000 (UTC) Cc: hw@adminart.net, spacibba@aol.com, flexibeast@gmail.com, emacs-devel To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 26 03:38:43 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ftk0p-00013J-3J for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 26 Aug 2018 03:38:43 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47600 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ftk2v-0004ab-Aw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 25 Aug 2018 21:40:53 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58422) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ftk1s-0003q5-NC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Aug 2018 21:39:49 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ftjnn-0001q0-6v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Aug 2018 21:25:15 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-lf1-x131.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::131]:33670) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ftjnm-0001ow-3H; Sat, 25 Aug 2018 21:25:14 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-lf1-x131.google.com with SMTP id m26-v6so946321lfb.0; Sat, 25 Aug 2018 18:25:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=BFTtORYvFyrLhzL2uRnMOjTnVKHldzOqVTz+4S3uf6o=; b=FZnkpEvjdki0aEEeNzPVhFCfv5T4Es7pQ8mH2QAvZpHETbb3D30W/mzDKRnGaXZs3s fQCT+c/q13+u5bNA5iCTJStaeoSfFv84cM4+17+tjQquHyOu7csshITx5/Uty44H7NZ2 iY6pmKqcUvBL2e7PfC4qZ9uvMgveIfD/vVq2WcV8j91AJF2KF4PGlvI8SCD9iQ/pYaf/ yezCjtPcV1J3bFJZDTfrolH8aGCO4rupbSr+XTIDdos0rzx+Ie32oPHcM11fTGZTGMgr OgjdCU/v9C91bTqnxrTUFvtMuaQcQ+SC3Peya0qd5gIQ5VwUTbCR5F35nJl1AGXs8WwM hQYA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=BFTtORYvFyrLhzL2uRnMOjTnVKHldzOqVTz+4S3uf6o=; b=Rkra7SqCr472E/IiH9E+CJan76rEhr7jFhjqT4xpu62qlGx+587/u9hPLqlgyRS06/ VTmLdvCPgdAF5WViD6hD3YmeJqHg8j59+ub7l+BfBQDa4a/Fw0Da4vfO38dvw3mm6jTW j8PK11FPpUSxzhm+sL5DKaIIxrjL4APiZAXkzRpdt5fhNYD9wK+pGojwUnh2gj9vZxEU weYN5xXVeOz42RiBgawDcDyiwKkpgSI2JVGBcMeuGWHZ9804Bq4E9JvpOGviWtBn0WtV M1fCG1xDQYnpYExfNU1480GyxzpJijTBf0GL2mZaOaU2CpHfdcjntPVqWDQCeKovRIHZ T8pg== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51Bg3wvmbPTZdl3kHQYCSDMs97hnfHF8XS1eBkieYDeOcs0+RVpG wDuy7mYEOGfabsX4NWLO+6WPDsp2z7oYUYvQYXd7CwDxNpM= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0VdYkevV2S0ZxE/9GhW8kwJG6m34JtPMJz59Z6nL36UROrK2nmzNYFgGLJzXln8iplQRxdbWwHbtsEMOmafKZxG4= X-Received: by 2002:a19:94c3:: with SMTP id o64-v6mr4644211lfk.70.1535246712688; Sat, 25 Aug 2018 18:25:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83lg8u770n.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4864:20::131 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:228918 Archived-At: >> Why bother with the Emacs server when you can just make Emacs start >> up as fast as Vim? ;) > > Not sure if this is a serious question. But if it is, then the answer > is clear: because keeping Emacs running at all times means you keep > all the stuff that isn't saved to files, like buffers that don't visit > files (*scratch* being the most important one of them), various > history variables, etc. It was intended rhetorically, because in my experience the Emacs server is most frequently discussed when people are talking about how to avoid a slow startup. Of course you are right that there are other reasons one might want to use it.