From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Radon Rosborough Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH] Fixing package-initialize, adding early init file Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2017 18:18:12 -0700 Message-ID: References: <83po9vos4z.fsf@gnu.org> <87shelv2m6.fsf@udel.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a114037d64ecd7a055b8bac1a" X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1508030403 21034 195.159.176.226 (15 Oct 2017 01:20:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2017 01:20:03 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , rswgnu@gmail.com, emacs-devel To: Mark Oteiza Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 15 03:19:55 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1e3Xam-0003hm-MJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 15 Oct 2017 03:19:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55709 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e3Xas-000427-83 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 14 Oct 2017 21:19:54 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57808) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e3XZy-000421-4y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Oct 2017 21:18:59 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e3XZx-0007wh-AH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Oct 2017 21:18:58 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-lf0-x231.google.com ([2a00:1450:4010:c07::231]:43810) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e3XZv-0007v1-Po; Sat, 14 Oct 2017 21:18:55 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-lf0-x231.google.com with SMTP id a16so13346161lfk.0; Sat, 14 Oct 2017 18:18:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=t7ukfyl7PVv/siXiLWwS9QiEKLwWZmgrdnIUwwjiFCo=; b=GWP3tRjTFSRy8nCj8W5zO1qA/6+hzIoXCALIVaJZNqZ4Kw9QdMlLtCi93QHMHmq/b8 EFjvzdeSG0zFI6b/zWuKmAvy/VDZaP66lGj6v2p9P9967Z5ZY2pwG0SW8BEAK+HRu2DL C8+zAnkfmM0eLPfj0vuALJ93c5bABq7wZlPYfV6iTEIG/Ot0Xa8G+ys8dABivZQ+94D1 9v0jaE0IP3IdgGqKBJmaxC8K9JZSJ/VWxlQl0fU0D8dpR5VqlekJVOjgXVLaZaXiW/ea Bf1lTsqJ6VDb2F1WUY1Vfz9CM+hUxubSWDM+q+ELX2SPfu3ZvRGJrs16CgIxC0anh0ph +zJQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=t7ukfyl7PVv/siXiLWwS9QiEKLwWZmgrdnIUwwjiFCo=; b=N5+o+ZIw4aAHeZbPJfUTeU8Cc8rS3acbUWtFuYfIo++J+1eSh25AuWhSpaheRwx/+p /cDe8YMmuOsPlWNxjoQM4dR7bE02bhwi3sF1kYxCHwjumuuFKdSKd6xgq71Tz2p3MPHW ehTbfyaPOsLxH8Hd96T48MocMMR+TZGr4IhsyIpzo0E/gOMqaJti3W+ihp+vLOvzn9XJ 13CYo6H/k0CwqmhbSw2asV0ezj4obwDPBkO1wYZt/LAlDXFulFQuE7U9lIPlQtpO3xMq Q/AuynvHarjvbty5YO46s20MyhRMIARKR+xEu9Vtk5gU0vBLO51b5VVttfWND5o5ZRRI UqfQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AMCzsaWtPyiZIyMBrIGKuibhlRB9/XxZusZ21MxWItuqUnUEducV0IqO C5B3aUsScR+SQJSZenPGHoEZiEU1H2J8t8L6fLo= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABhQp+Tm26sAgj9p2diKVztwgBi5MhBF9n4MU7LAaw/0VELmxG8RyYTNADNekuZROG98GohPRDfoYsB7ly9AJwcEWt8= X-Received: by 10.25.29.196 with SMTP id d187mr1477600lfd.37.1508030332978; Sat, 14 Oct 2017 18:18:52 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.25.208.10 with HTTP; Sat, 14 Oct 2017 18:18:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87shelv2m6.fsf@udel.edu> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4010:c07::231 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:219536 Archived-At: --001a114037d64ecd7a055b8bac1a Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > Breaking the ability to do such tweaking with the init file we > already have is insane. It is equally legitimate for me to say that all of the other proposed solutions are insane. Please provide some reasoning to substantiate your claim, since I have already provided ample reasoning to substantiate my claim to the contrary (see [1]). [1]: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2017-09/msg00023.html --001a114037d64ecd7a055b8bac1a Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> Breaking the ability to do such tweaking wi= th the init file we
> already have is insane.

It is equally legitimate for me to say that all of the other propo= sed
solutions are insane. Please provide some reasoning to substa= ntiate
your claim, since I have already provided ample reasoning = to
substantiate my claim to the contrary (see [1]).

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