From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ilya Shlyakhter Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: CL package suggestion Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 12:52:42 -0400 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3036388b9e47f504bcc92282 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1333471986 30233 80.91.229.3 (3 Apr 2012 16:53:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 16:53:06 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 03 18:53:05 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SF6yd-0003jQ-Li for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 03 Apr 2012 18:53:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58576 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SF6yd-0006RT-4C for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 03 Apr 2012 12:53:03 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:53237) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SF6yT-0006Nk-QX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Apr 2012 12:53:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SF6yL-0000dA-9s for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Apr 2012 12:52:52 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-gy0-f169.google.com ([209.85.160.169]:56325) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SF6yL-0000c3-27 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Apr 2012 12:52:45 -0400 Original-Received: by ghrr18 with SMTP id r18so2259053ghr.0 for ; Tue, 03 Apr 2012 09:52:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=1weaSMl1zTZOi8wpDM1IwRyvcBSQehwVSDIs8xiHcEk=; b=SnWc4sv3ZU49phty/1H0LbO5JATjQDfuFsPDGo5/eFy9iSBhP069fBc/3J5nibwtNA zWnxU8y7eUkuYy8KQ4CB/imgqb17NpCzcAfryDDuunKc5mw7pOAYeG9iptRJ0NhbqSou 9mI3q4eRSI1mNHdZpG68mRIPackrlIf5zttYejUHc3mBps+Qr0q+sj4bRQ7VkCsVopBd K+GRMSYokji3iC43l8c65sonFEllRz8/IilVSr24Vn1nGrzJK50+XV3F/EU7CU/HRUFu jiKlBQsHrFOET8LAj4HC04PtVVI90fLSNx24i2rmMGa6WLlUQLcGySRVcVJlRAQeLQKf cv/w== Original-Received: by 10.236.125.168 with SMTP id z28mr11780246yhh.120.1333471962089; Tue, 03 Apr 2012 09:52:42 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.147.168.13 with HTTP; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 09:52:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Sender-Auth: g6LNEdgIcSMtqjLKDzqu8MPUzNc X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 209.85.160.169 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:149342 Archived-At: --20cf3036388b9e47f504bcc92282 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 hello, i'd like to make a suggestion for the CL package. right now its non-macro parts can't be used at runtime. as a result, each package defines their own equivalents, e.g. org-remove-if. could Emacs add a copy of the CL package with some standard prefix, e.g. ecl? then with (require 'ecl) you get ecl-remove-if etc. the ecl or whichever prefix has to avoid conflict with known emacs packages, but that's it. the issues with polluting the global namespace / conflicting with people's private remove-if versions would not apply. the alternative is that for each package i write i copy code i need from CL (with acknowledgement of course) and add my package's prefix. that doesn't seem ideal. thanks, ilya --20cf3036388b9e47f504bcc92282 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hello,

i'd like to make a suggestion for the CL pack= age.
right now its non-macro parts can't be used at runtime.<= /div>
as a result, each package defines their own equivalents, e.g. org= -remove-if.

could Emacs add a copy of the CL package with some stan= dard prefix, e.g. ecl?
then with (require 'ecl) you get ecl-r= emove-if etc.
the ecl or whichever prefix has to avoid conflict w= ith known emacs packages,=A0
but that's it. =A0the issues with polluting the global namespace /= conflicting with
people's private remove-if versions would n= ot apply.

the alternative is that for each package= i write i copy code i need from CL (with
acknowledgement of course) and=A0add my package's prefix. =A0that = doesn't
seem ideal.

thanks,

ilya

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