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From: Ilya Shlyakhter <ilya_shl@alum.mit.edu>
To: rms@gnu.org
Cc: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: CL package suggestion
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 10:12:28 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACfYvRYDvesi1L_SPQ7xdeCd63Ld0+=4WKY+cDiJ8KcyOw_yUw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1SHp16-0003Di-0G@fencepost.gnu.org>

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Of the names mentioned so far, cl-lib seems best to me: what distinguishes
cl from most other packages is that it's a library of callable code rather
than
an implementation of some user-facing functionality.
cl-ext would also work for the same reason.

If the intention is to eventually obsolete and forget about the non-safe,
non-clean and non-nice version of cl, then cl-safe/cl-clean/cl-nice might
look strange in future code (suggesting that there's a
non-safe/non-clean/non-nice
version somewhere & the user is choosing the safe/clean/nice version for
their particular program).  Cf. car-safe, floatp-safe etc.

On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 12:18 AM, Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> wrote:

>    No: The way to do it is to rename cl.el to cl-<something>.el, change all
>    its definitions to use the "cl-" prefix and then create a new cl.el
>    which only contains defaliases.
>
> Yes, that would be the right way.
>
> My suggestions for names for the new package are cl-safe, cl-imp (for
> implementation), or cl-nice (because it is nice to the namespace).
>
>    > also: should i also add cl- aliases for macro names in CL, for
> uniformity?
>
>    That's a good question and I haven't thought much about it.  I'm leaning
>    towards the "yes" (e.g. I don't like the current dolist/dotimes
>    situation where those macros are defined in two different ways
>    depending on whether `cl' is loaded or not).
>
> I agree.
>
> --
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  reply	other threads:[~2012-04-11 14:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-04-03 16:52 CL package suggestion Ilya Shlyakhter
2012-04-03 16:58 ` Glenn Morris
2012-04-03 17:00   ` Glenn Morris
2012-04-03 17:09     ` Ilya Shlyakhter
2012-04-03 18:58       ` Stefan Monnier
2012-04-04  1:56         ` Ilya Shlyakhter
2012-04-04 13:06           ` Stefan Monnier
2012-04-09  1:39             ` Ilya Shlyakhter
2012-04-09  1:41               ` Ilya Shlyakhter
2012-04-09  4:54             ` Ilya Shlyakhter
2012-04-09 13:28               ` Stefan Monnier
2012-04-09 14:38                 ` Ilya Shlyakhter
2012-04-09 16:24                   ` Stefan Monnier
2012-04-09 16:45                     ` Ilya Shlyakhter
2012-04-09 16:54                       ` Ilya Shlyakhter
2012-04-10 12:51                       ` Stefan Monnier
2012-04-11  4:18                 ` Richard Stallman
2012-04-11 14:12                   ` Ilya Shlyakhter [this message]
2012-04-11 14:32                     ` Stefan Monnier

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