From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Steven Degutis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: [ANN] project-buffers.el Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 19:26:43 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20130401215942.GA2258@hysteria.proulx.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b2edc09b440dd04d955ca95 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1364862815 8564 80.91.229.3 (2 Apr 2013 00:33:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 00:33:35 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 02 02:34:03 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UMpAl-0007xz-Jr for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 02 Apr 2013 02:33:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56859 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UMpAM-0004UP-IC for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 20:33:34 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:45403) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UMpA8-0004U3-GZ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 20:33:23 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UMp3k-0001sO-35 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 20:26:50 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pa0-f48.google.com ([209.85.220.48]:56004) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UMp3j-0001sD-P8 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 20:26:43 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pa0-f48.google.com with SMTP id lj1so1557858pab.21 for ; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 17:26:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=RfnYGayBVoFqTht13eePpQVSTfhiNSRPyq4QUNq0UnY=; b=aHJzfKgegzZW2Li7Wt7DNNue+0ii4QUsMSqFjokBk0Tc+bCUoY31KQMnG2XA+Rl2+p 6a22AEfrfUFi74KuZ5Un6k7H5ZKAIwnB6VK/guoNR+gyv6MS+8q1go4bI/4x1pdNz5qY T4t9n7cfyWOVHKjsdTuTYRBcD4KjSSxlW65M+6OtxnWDZ30cHIHILxOu3ow/IEpolgn6 WQVsLGBYUp3jA+kz6JWUArD+YUhw4/9/AeQ4xFP5z0jkE4hiNNc9LBSaKmXpDngB2F0P YGB4ZR5duHI5WgCqAfZGwuEXvIDfRWikPqpIyrDu4E1BSn0SAc9AvjyiZ8lvrKl/GRAP SpSg== X-Received: by 10.68.220.230 with SMTP id pz6mr20951693pbc.46.1364862403099; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 17:26:43 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.70.30.35 with HTTP; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 17:26:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20130401215942.GA2258@hysteria.proulx.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 209.85.220.48 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:89872 Archived-At: --047d7b2edc09b440dd04d955ca95 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Oh. Thanks. -Steven On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: > > P.S. Sorry if this is showing up twice. I didn't see it posted at first, > > and figured it's because I ticked the "conceal email address" option, so > it > > went overboard and concealed my email by just not posting my message. > > This is the first time your address is seen to the mailing list. > Spammers like to subscribe and then post messages to scam the "must be > subscribed to post" filters which renders them useless. Therefore all > new subscribers are moderated until they post a valid message. After > the initial valid email posting then you are unmoderated subsequently. > > It looks like you posted your message at 09:31:53 -0600 and it was > delivered at 15:24:07 -0600. Volunteers are sometimes busy with jobs > and life. > > Additionally the network through the lists.gnu.org machine is often > saturated delivering email especially when people attach multimegabyte > files (log files, pictures, screenshots, pdfs, random things) that are > delivered to hundreds or thousands of subscribers multiplying the > bandwidth significantly. That will often cause the mailing list to > have long delays in being able to deliver all mail through it even > small ones. To curb that problem large emails are also held for > moderation. > > Additionally there has until recently been a problem where the mailing > list machine would inappropriately think it was overloaded and > throttle delivery until the load subsided. That was also causing long > mailing list delivery delays to appear out of the blue. That > particular problem has been fully mitigated now. > > Bob > > --047d7b2edc09b440dd04d955ca95 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Oh.

Thanks.

-Steven


On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Bob Proulx = <bob@proulx.com&= gt; wrote:
> P.S. Sorry if this is= showing up twice. I didn't see it posted at first,
> and figured it's because I ticked the "conceal email address&= quot; option, so it
> went overboard and concealed my email by just not posting my message.<= br>
This is the first time your address is seen to the mailing list.
Spammers like to subscribe and then post messages to scam the "must be=
subscribed to post" filters which renders them useless. =A0Therefore a= ll
new subscribers are moderated until they post a valid message. =A0After
the initial valid email posting then you are unmoderated subsequently.

It looks like you posted your message at 09:31:53 -0600 and it was
delivered at 15:24:07 -0600. =A0Volunteers are sometimes busy with jobs
and life.

Additionally the network through the lists.gnu.org machine is often
saturated delivering email especially when people attach multimegabyte
files (log files, pictures, screenshots, pdfs, random things) that are
delivered to hundreds or thousands of subscribers multiplying the
bandwidth significantly. =A0That will often cause the mailing list to
have long delays in being able to deliver all mail through it even
small ones. =A0To curb that problem large emails are also held for
moderation.

Additionally there has until recently been a problem where the mailing
list machine would inappropriately think it was overloaded and
throttle delivery until the load subsided. =A0That was also causing long mailing list delivery delays to appear out of the blue. =A0That
particular problem has been fully mitigated now.

Bob


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