Re: Does anyone really use emacs in terminal?

[Steven Degutis <sbdegutis@gmail.com>]

I'm so tired of how Emacs so desperately clings onto the 80s and 90s.

So many of its defaults are idiotic, so many legacy features it tries
to support are just terrible and useless.

I often wish there was a modern emacs clone that dropped all these
legacy features.

Who ever uses a toolbar?
Why don't the scrollbars work like normal?
Why is the undo feature so ridiculous, instead of something more sane
like undo-tree?
Why isn't ido-mode enabled by default, and why doesn't it work on more
completable prompts without a third party plugin?

On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 10:58 PM, Le Wang <l26wang@gmail.com> wrote:
> The cool kids do it.
>
> You can find many screencasts of people doing everything in terminal and
> proselytising the simplicity and lack of distractions of such a work flow.
> They don't mention the lack of features, and the pitfalls.
>
> As a result a lot of the newbie questions on stackoverflow and here are "Why
> dozn't M-return work with me Emacs?" and "How comez when I can't cut'n'paste
> from Emacs?".
>
> This is frustratingly detrimental to Emacs adoption because the new user's
> initial experience with Emacs is "fixing" it.
>
>
> On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Steven Degutis <sbdegutis@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> What's the use-case for having the terminal be able to act as an editor?
>>
>> For me it's rather the other way around, I use the terminal within my
>> editor (eshell).
>>
>> Seems like there's no real point in supporting terminal-mode in a text
>> editor these days.
>>
>> -Steven
>>
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> Le