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From: Steven Degutis <sbdegutis@gmail.com>
To: "Pascal J. Bourguignon" <pjb@informatimago.com>
Cc: "help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org" <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Does anyone really use emacs in terminal?
Date: Sun, 5 May 2013 00:43:37 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACeWA3iC=BOc1-RYHypvaoaWB-PCWS5Ff=dR5cT6ZCTGYWZWUw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877gjevvdc.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com>

Yes, any clone is a fork, but only the Privileged Few can understand
emacs' source code enough to do anything decent with it.

You can't seriously be suggesting that undo within a text editor is
not a useful feature?

I agree, ido-mode is unbearable in its default state. But with
ido-vertical-mode it's pretty great:
https://github.com/rson/ido-vertical-mode.el

On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 12:38 AM, Pascal J. Bourguignon
<pjb@informatimago.com> wrote:
> Steven Degutis <sbdegutis@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> I'm so tired of how Emacs so desperately clings onto the 80s and 90s.
>>
>> So many of its defaults are idiotic, so many legacy features it tries
>> to support are just terrible and useless.
>>
>> I often wish there was a modern emacs clone that dropped all these
>> legacy features.
>
>
>   git clone git://git.savannah.gnu.org/emacs.git
>
> any git clone is a fork!
>
>
>> Who ever uses a toolbar?
>
> I never do.
>
>
>> Why don't the scrollbars work like normal?
>
> I never use them.
>
>
>> Why is the undo feature so ridiculous, instead of something more sane
>> like undo-tree?
>
> There's git for that.  Seriously, who needs more than two undoes?
>
>
>> Why isn't ido-mode enabled by default, and why doesn't it work on more
>> completable prompts without a third party plugin?
>
> ido-mode is unbearable, I don't use it.
>
>
> --
> __Pascal Bourguignon__                     http://www.informatimago.com/
> A bad day in () is better than a good day in {}.
>
>



  reply	other threads:[~2013-05-05  5:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 116+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-05-05  3:06 Does anyone really use emacs in terminal? Steven Degutis
2013-05-05  3:58 ` Le Wang
2013-05-05  4:06   ` Steven Degutis
2013-05-05  4:30     ` Bob Proulx
2013-05-05  4:33       ` Steven Degutis
2013-05-05  5:38     ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-05-05  5:43       ` Steven Degutis [this message]
2013-05-05  6:58         ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-05-05 17:24         ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2013-05-05 19:30           ` Steven Degutis
2013-05-05  6:59     ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]     ` <mailman.25179.1367737210.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-05-05 14:27       ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-05-05 19:31         ` Steven Degutis
2013-05-05 19:52           ` Mark Skilbeck
2013-05-05  4:32   ` Jai Dayal
2013-05-08 12:51     ` Steinar Bang
2013-05-05  5:34   ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-05-05  5:39     ` Steven Degutis
2013-05-05  4:04 ` XeCycle
2013-05-05  4:13 ` Bob Proulx
2013-05-05  4:17   ` Steven Degutis
2013-05-05  4:36     ` Jai Dayal
2013-05-05  5:42     ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-05-05  4:31 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-05-05  4:39   ` Steven Degutis
2013-05-05  4:41     ` Steven Degutis
2013-05-05  8:29       ` Peter Dyballa
2013-05-05  5:43     ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-05-05  5:46     ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-05-09 11:50   ` Luca Ferrari
2013-05-05  6:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-05-05  8:21 ` eniotna
2013-05-06 10:20   ` Bastien
     [not found] <mailman.25145.1367723226.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-05-05  3:43 ` Chad Brown
2013-05-07 18:17   ` Cecil Westerhof
2013-05-08  2:30     ` Hugh Lawson
2013-05-08  9:35       ` Nicolas Richard
2013-05-08 15:53         ` Bob Proulx
2013-05-08 20:51           ` Nicolas Richard
2013-05-08 21:08             ` Steven Degutis
2013-05-22 11:01               ` Steinar Bang
2013-05-09  8:26             ` Peter Dyballa
     [not found]           ` <mailman.25343.1368046244.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-05-08 23:21             ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-05-09  8:21               ` Thorsten Jolitz
2013-05-09  8:38               ` Peter Dyballa
2013-05-09 13:39                 ` Jai Dayal
2013-05-09 15:26                   ` Peter Dyballa
2013-05-09 15:35                     ` Jai Dayal
2013-05-09 18:50                       ` Peter Dyballa
2013-05-09 18:58                       ` Peter Dyballa
2013-05-09 19:01                         ` Jai Dayal
2013-05-09 19:09                           ` Peter Dyballa
2013-05-09 19:04                         ` Jai Dayal
2013-05-09 19:19                           ` Óscar Fuentes
2013-05-09 19:27                             ` Jai Dayal
     [not found]                         ` <mailman.25426.1368126295.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-05-09 19:09                           ` Jay Belanger
2013-05-09 21:08                             ` Jai Dayal
2013-05-11  4:01                               ` PJ Weisberg
2013-05-11 14:43                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-05-11 14:45                                 ` Jai Dayal
     [not found]                             ` <mailman.25436.1368133731.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-05-09 21:58                               ` Jay Belanger
2013-05-09 16:00                   ` Luca Ferrari
2013-05-09 16:02                     ` Jai Dayal
2013-05-09 16:19                       ` Óscar Fuentes
2013-05-09 16:25                         ` Jai Dayal
2013-05-09 16:40                           ` Óscar Fuentes
2013-05-09 16:46                             ` Jai Dayal
2013-05-09 17:04                               ` Óscar Fuentes
2013-05-09 17:11                                 ` Jai Dayal
2013-05-09 17:27                                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2013-05-09 17:50                                     ` Steven Degutis
2013-05-09 16:51                             ` Óscar Fuentes
2013-05-09 16:19                       ` Hongxu Chen
2013-05-09 16:27                         ` Jai Dayal
2013-05-11 18:13                       ` Luca Ferrari
2013-05-11 18:14                         ` Jai Dayal
2013-05-11 19:12                           ` Peter Dyballa
     [not found]                         ` <mailman.25563.1368296076.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-05-11 20:14                           ` Jay Belanger
2013-05-11 21:11                             ` Jai Dayal
     [not found]                             ` <mailman.25571.1368306670.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-05-11 21:40                               ` Jay Belanger
2013-05-11 22:32                                 ` Jai Dayal
2013-05-11 23:51                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-05-12  8:30                                   ` Peter Dyballa
2013-05-12  8:44                                     ` Hongxu Chen
     [not found]                                     ` <mailman.25594.1368348301.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-05-12 19:44                                       ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-05-12 20:00                                         ` Dan Espen
2013-05-12 20:53                                           ` Jai Dayal
2013-05-12 21:18                                           ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
     [not found]                                           ` <mailman.25612.1368392031.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-05-12 22:40                                             ` Dan Espen
2013-05-13  1:23                                               ` Jay Belanger
2013-05-12 20:52                                         ` Jai Dayal
2013-05-13  5:58                                           ` Jonathan Groll
     [not found]                                 ` <mailman.25577.1368311553.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-05-11 22:41                                   ` Jay Belanger
2013-05-12  0:04                                     ` Jai Dayal
2013-05-12 13:46                                       ` Jonathan Groll
     [not found]                                     ` <mailman.25583.1368317085.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-05-12  0:09                                       ` Jay Belanger
2013-05-12  2:27                                   ` Dan Espen
2013-05-12  6:32                                     ` Jai Dayal
     [not found]                                     ` <mailman.25590.1368340339.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-05-12 14:07                                       ` Jay Belanger
2013-05-09 16:17                     ` Hongxu Chen
     [not found]                 ` <mailman.25386.1368106748.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-05-09 13:43                   ` notbob
2013-05-09 15:57                     ` Jai Dayal
2013-05-09 16:53                   ` Jay Belanger
     [not found]         ` <mailman.25331.1368028437.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-05-08 16:51           ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-05-08 19:49             ` Bob Proulx
2013-05-09  1:15               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-05-09  2:48                 ` Bob Proulx
2013-05-09  7:25                 ` Jonathan Groll
2013-05-09  9:08                   ` Tamas Papp
2013-05-05 10:14 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-05-06  3:31   ` Jason White
2013-05-06  9:52     ` ken
2013-05-06  9:56       ` Peter Dyballa
     [not found]       ` <mailman.25227.1367834181.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-05-08 10:22         ` Andrea Venturoli
     [not found]   ` <mailman.25215.1367811087.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-05-06 13:13     ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-05-06 15:29   ` Joost Kremers

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