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From: Steven Degutis <sbdegutis@gmail.com>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: "help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org" <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: `auto-dim-other-windows` -- scrutiny invited
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2013 17:01:20 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACeWA3i3Kf5kSriERLLF9J3-y+gh3ShB-HgG3J3Kmekvb2eMbg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4CAC0625449A4494938E732EF60CC5E3@us.oracle.com>

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Thanks.

The goal was to make it more obvious at a really quick glance where the
cursor is.

Thumbifying and iconifying won't suffice because generally I need all my
windows open at once. Maybe I'm abnormal.

For now I just made my hl-line face have a blue background. It's working
well enough for now.

-Steven


On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 4:55 PM, Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> wrote:

> FWIW, and ignore this if it doesn't help -
>
> 1. I suggest you start by asking yourself *why* you want to distinguish the
> selected window (or all the non-selected windows, which amounts to the same
> thing).
>
> If the answer it just to *make clear which* window is selected, then
> dimming any
> of them is not a great approach, IMHO.  If that's the only reason then
> presumably you would want all of the windows to remain easy to read etc.
>
> If the answer is just to more or less remove the non-selected windows from
> your
> attention, then I'd suggest that there are better approaches, including
> perhaps
> scaling their text smaller.
>
> IOW, if you do not really care whether the non-selected windows are as
> readable
> as the selected window, and you do not want to be distracted by them but
> would
> prefer to more or less ignore them temporarily, then why bother wasting so
> much
> screen real estate on them?  Taking up screen space with intentionally
> dimmed
> windows makes little sense to me.
>
>
> 2. Out of the box, text scaling does not free up any screen real estate:
> when
> you shrink text its window does not also shrink.  But if you use library
> `face-remap+.el' then non-nil option `text-scale-resize-window' shrinks the
> window along with the text.
>
> However, just resizing a window in conjunction with text scaling affects
> only
> the vertical space, not the horizontal space.  And shrinking one window
> grows
> the adjacent windows, so in itself it is not a solution to try shrinking
> all the
> non-selected windows.  The heights and widths of their frames would not
> change.
>
>
> 3. But you can also thumbify a frame, which is similar but it does shrink
> the
> frame.  It shrinks the text of each of its windows (so you would not want
> to
> thumbify the frame that has the selected window).
>
> You can set the thumbifying shrink factor so that thumbified frames are
> anything
> from tiny (active desktop icons, in essence) to only slightly smaller than
> normal.
>
> When you thumbify a frame, it puts its windows and text in the background
> in
> terms of your attention - and it frees up screen space.
>
> But the windows and text are still there and still usable.  Depending on
> the
> shrink factor you choose, this effect is more or less pronounced.
>
> Even very tiny frames whose text is unreadable can be effective in terms of
> searching text or monitoring process output.  IOW, for some Emacs
> operations you
> do not actually need to be able to read the text clearly.
>
> (Ordinary frame iconifying is of course another solution to the attention
> focus/distraction problem, albeit a somewhat coarse one.  It too gets less
> interesting frames out of the way.  But you cannot see their content or
> interact
> with it.)
>
> http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs-en/download/face-remap%2b.el
> http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs-en/download/thumb-frm.el
>
> Doc/screenshot of thumbified frames:
> http://www.emacswiki.org/FisheyeWithThumbs
>
>

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-04-04 22:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-04-02 21:06 `auto-dim-other-windows` -- scrutiny invited Steven Degutis
2013-04-02 22:19 ` Óscar Fuentes
2013-04-02 22:48   ` Steven Degutis
2013-04-02 23:14     ` Óscar Fuentes
2013-04-02 23:19       ` Steven Degutis
     [not found]       ` <mailman.23338.1364944796.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-04-03 13:03         ` Michael Heerdegen
2013-04-03 13:27           ` Steven Degutis
     [not found] ` <mailman.23335.1364941179.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-04-03 13:11   ` Michael Heerdegen
2013-04-03 13:19     ` Steven Degutis
2013-04-03 14:44 ` Steven Degutis
2013-04-03 14:47   ` Mark Skilbeck
2013-04-03 14:52     ` Steven Degutis
2013-04-03 14:55       ` Mark Skilbeck
2013-04-03 15:09         ` Steven Degutis
2013-04-03 15:17           ` Óscar Fuentes
2013-04-03 15:15   ` Óscar Fuentes
2013-04-03 15:32     ` Steven Degutis
2013-04-03 16:03       ` Steven Degutis
2013-04-03 17:03         ` Óscar Fuentes
2013-04-03 17:13           ` Steven Degutis
2013-04-03 17:17             ` Óscar Fuentes
2013-04-03 17:42               ` Steven Degutis
2013-04-03 18:10                 ` Óscar Fuentes
2013-04-03 18:54                   ` Steven Degutis
2013-04-03 19:19                     ` Steven Degutis
2013-04-03 20:13         ` Stefan Monnier
2013-04-03 20:22           ` Steven Degutis
2013-04-03 22:23             ` Stefan Monnier
2013-04-04 21:55               ` Drew Adams
2013-04-04 22:01                 ` Steven Degutis [this message]
2013-04-05 12:49                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-04-06 19:23                     ` Drew Adams
     [not found]       ` <mailman.23406.1365005023.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-04-03 17:20         ` Michael Heerdegen
2013-04-03 17:44           ` Steven Degutis
2013-04-03 20:55           ` Steven Degutis
2013-04-04 16:02           ` Steven Degutis
2013-04-04  7:27         ` Joost Kremers
2013-04-04 20:52           ` Ludwig, Mark
2013-04-04 20:53             ` Steven Degutis
2013-04-04 21:31               ` Steven Degutis
2013-04-03 15:57   ` Ludwig, Mark
2013-04-03 16:06     ` Steven Degutis
2013-04-03 16:37     ` Drew Adams

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