From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Steven Degutis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Better vertical-ness in ido-mode? Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2013 10:57:33 -0500 Message-ID: References: <83a9pfiqxp.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b16018d5706fa04d98b0787 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1365091084 7318 80.91.229.3 (4 Apr 2013 15:58:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2013 15:58:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org" To: Tom Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 04 17:58:32 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UNmYZ-000193-1b for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Apr 2013 17:58:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59361 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UNmY9-0002P9-Uf for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Apr 2013 11:58:05 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:44468) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UNmXn-0002Nj-38 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Apr 2013 11:57:53 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UNmXe-00030Z-NR for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Apr 2013 11:57:43 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pa0-f43.google.com ([209.85.220.43]:33479) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UNmXe-00030D-Hi for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Apr 2013 11:57:34 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pa0-f43.google.com with SMTP id hz11so1565974pad.16 for ; Thu, 04 Apr 2013 08:57:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Q9X2mO8561vxlblwB6Zt0oQK5Jnw1iLJDA6XvfjLUok=; b=K3ENmeuyOGElurrM1U5RRkhfo+vExDstQvJWZ84nwJxQzBsgRcGYD9FeYmULT4h9Gc P7gHTZ1PxC9I/wh8vfEmnMHhhCHl88QVavdEUkBAYpQLPn3eTK9apoSIYN4KURLpB+VY Yml7/hVQDAM+jB1m80ag1ktg6vbEM6AGYbXd3QA4j77xsfz+WN9O/GLH2IMmyZwaKZqA Mq61IPK5z0JS7gjouom2aZ7DgG8izEos3E5ncvg3kj83BrwMKZL/LPWZL9vgNizNrdhN HOCTa+vEi7oD485MJDXFlbXPVfXHMLivIYqx0QSD/WYkM7Oh4GlU6/gyCLNKPTMwdElM /pAg== X-Received: by 10.67.4.227 with SMTP id ch3mr3698779pad.59.1365091053666; Thu, 04 Apr 2013 08:57:33 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.70.6.100 with HTTP; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 08:57:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 209.85.220.43 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:89988 Archived-At: --047d7b16018d5706fa04d98b0787 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Looks like I might be able to just change `ido-completions` in some minor places to accomplish what I'm looking to do. Then if it seems legit, maybe I can submit it as a patch to emacs. Although, that process sounds more painful than it should be. -Steven On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Steven Degutis wrote: > Helm is way, way overkill. I tried it for months and I can't get used to > it. It does too many things, has too many options, leaves buffers lying > around whenever you use it. But the way ido-mode works is quite perfect. > All except this one little visual detail that I'm thinking is probably easy > to fix. > > -Steven > > > On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Tom wrote: > >> Steven Degutis gmail.com> writes: >> >> > These ideas seem like overkill. The current technique ido-mode >> > uses is great, it just could use a different visual >> > representation when displayed vertically, that's all. I'm sure >> > it can't be that hard, maybe forking ido-mode and hard-coding >> > it would be sufficient. >> >> In that case it would make more sense to use Helm. Helm uses a >> vertical display by default, so the best solution would be to >> create some kind of a bridge between them, so that ido provides >> the backend and Helm the frontend. >> >> >> >> > --047d7b16018d5706fa04d98b0787 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Looks like I might be able to just change `ido-completions= ` in some minor places to accomplish what I'm looking to do. Then if it= seems legit, maybe I can submit it as a patch to emacs. Although, that pro= cess sounds more painful than it should be.

-Steven


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On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Steven Degutis = <sbdegutis@gmail.com> wrote:
Helm is way, way overkill. = I tried it for months and I can't get used to it. It does too many thin= gs, has too many options, leaves buffers lying around whenever you use it. = But the way ido-mode works is quite perfect. All except this one little vis= ual detail that I'm thinking is probably easy to fix.

-Steven


= On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Tom <adatgyujto@gmail.com> wrote:
Steven Degutis <sbdegutis <at>= gmail.com> writes:
> These ideas seem like overkill. The current technique ido-mode
> uses is great, it just could use a different visual
> representation when displayed vertically, that's all. I'm sure=
> it can't be that hard, maybe forking ido-mode and hard-coding
> it would be sufficient.

In that case it would make more sense to use Helm. Helm uses a
vertical display by default, so the best solution would be to
create some kind of a bridge between them, so that ido provides
the backend and Helm the frontend.





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