From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Vin Shelton Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Font issues with recent emacs Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 13:26:24 -0500 Message-ID: References: <83bnzlejkp.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c2c0d634371004ef8dbfcc X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1389291987 26185 80.91.229.3 (9 Jan 2014 18:26:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 18:26:27 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 09 19:26:35 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W1KJN-00050o-Uj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 09 Jan 2014 19:26:34 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53549 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W1KJN-0002Mi-9g for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 09 Jan 2014 13:26:33 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55317) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W1KJJ-0002Mc-0e for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jan 2014 13:26:30 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W1KJH-0008Vq-DD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jan 2014 13:26:28 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-vb0-x22e.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400c:c02::22e]:34048) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W1KJF-0008Pr-3P; Thu, 09 Jan 2014 13:26:25 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-vb0-f46.google.com with SMTP id w20so2484151vbb.33 for ; Thu, 09 Jan 2014 10:26:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=APtOAzfHUKxjkyFIqO627oFbCcBK51xVq5Y3EB6wnWk=; b=noFFX4Jtulv/mdDPtLRDssOO7FJ5eIC1/SPgj/xVjw/5b9JM9UFeXYHcyBasHi/mk8 QLz//GtQoFzePC4q5LN1ZvVoMPoRAO7Pj2irGwdxrBz4tcWVNaxstHRbCcG3Re9dDDkH A9GJQnfiO6tc2gUrAJZl9X7fS9icmtltFhXcqywWy4w9BfrjnmI6XG0CZXABjwUawkzy 8MMTwEXaj+m+NT+O4t8ed0odBAKbdC4jAy6x68+X+vijys7oVY5/Isd7KQwUEFN0cBwQ 098egon5W98SL145/O6hqSwbbKH+kvUc1RYdoU+ym9DDCRea1NACbHWRL+thz9MLXYap iS1g== X-Received: by 10.52.165.176 with SMTP id yz16mr2523362vdb.73.1389291984138; Thu, 09 Jan 2014 10:26:24 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.52.72.106 with HTTP; Thu, 9 Jan 2014 10:26:24 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <83bnzlejkp.fsf@gnu.org> X-Google-Sender-Auth: LEFZPFaz6zi-DrZGtHavMs4oO_I X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400c:c02::22e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:167960 Archived-At: --001a11c2c0d634371004ef8dbfcc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Greetings - On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 1:49 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > Why do you insist on forcing on Emacs a specific fully qualified font > definition? > Fair point, although in the first case the modeline gets healed after: C-h i C-x k RET so emacs apparently knows how to change the default medium font to bold under some circumstances. Perhaps the bold font is being instantiated prior to the default font getting re-instantiated based on my command-line definition. It seems to me that changing the default font on the command line should change all the derivative fonts. Anyway, I tried to use customize-face to set the default font, but I'm having some difficulty. Starting again from "emacs -Q": After I invoke M-x customize-face default, the customize buffer says the Font Family is courier and the Font Foundry is adobe. I click in the courier box and replace "courier" with "dejavu sans mono" (w/o the quotes). I click in the adobe box and replace "adobe" with "misc". Next I held State button to set the font for the current session and instead of changing to "dejavu sans mono" the font changes to some kind of Times font. Showing the lisp expression confirms this: Lisp expression: ((t (:family "times" :foundry "adobe" :width normal :height 129 :weight normal :slant normal :underline nil :overline nil :strike-through nil :box nil :inverse-video nil :foreground "black" :background "white" :stipple nil :inherit nil))) - Vin --001a11c2c0d634371004ef8dbfcc Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Greetings -

On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 1:49 AM, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
Why do you insist on forcing on Emacs a specific fully qualified font
definition?

Fair point, although in the first case the modeline gets heal= ed after:
=A0 =A0 C-h i
=A0 =A0 C-x k RET
so emacs apparently knows= how to change the default medium font to bold under some circumstances. = =A0Perhaps the bold font is being instantiated prior to the default font ge= tting re-instantiated based on my command-line definition. =A0It seems to m= e that changing the default font on the command line should change all the = derivative fonts.

Anywa= y, I tried to use customize-face to set the default font, but I'm havin= g some difficulty.

Starting again from "emacs -Q":
<= br>
After I invoke M-x customize-face defau= lt, the customize buffer says the Font Family is courier and the Font Found= ry is adobe. =A0I click in the courier box and replace "courier" = with "dejavu sans mono" (w/o the quotes). =A0I click in the adobe= box and replace "adobe" with "misc". =A0Next I held St= ate button to set the font for the current session and instead of changing = to "dejavu sans mono" the font changes to some kind of Times font= . =A0Showing the lisp expression confirms this:

Lisp expression:=A0
((t
=A0 (:family "times" :foundry "= ;adobe" :width normal :height 129 :weight normal :slant normal :underl= ine nil :overline nil :strike-through nil :box nil :inverse-video nil :fore= ground "black" :background "white" :stipple nil :inheri= t nil)))

=A0 - Vin
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