From: Carsten Mattner <carstenmattner@googlemail.com>
To: Rene@kyllingstad.com
Cc: "Jan D." <jan.h.d@swipnet.se>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: C-g crash in C-x C-f (OSX Lion)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 18:47:03 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACY+Hvr_SxCdEEy=m7f8_3JMw+EkHhSsckjN4_vZVqVt=gNEwQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEP=temJ0YcKdvmFwrniyp5Yj7-bTo6nJ+1=sqthARDxs65C2g@mail.gmail.com>
2011/12/19 René Kyllingstad <Rene@kyllingstad.com>:
> On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 17:52, Carsten Mattner
> <carstenmattner@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Jan D. <jan.h.d@swipnet.se> wrote:
>> > AFAIK, the Mac port uses Carbon, and is based om Emacs 23, i.e. no Emacs
>> > 24
>> > features (like multitty).
>>
>> Sounds like the Mac port should be obsolete and deprecated as
>> Carbon is deprecated and I'm not even sure it's in Lion anymore.
>
>
> This is alas a common misunderstanding about the Mac port.
>
> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2007-11/msg00424.html
> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2007-11/msg00499.html
Hmm, what about M-x ns-popup-font-panel and friends?
It's not like this cannot be made to work.
--with-ns priority should be OSX and Gnustep as 2nd tier I believe so that
OSX has a good graphical frontend.
> The Mac port hasn't been integrated because none of the maintainers are
> particularly interested nor knowledgeable about the mac platform, and the
> author of the port has not pushed for it.
>
> So instead of a rock solid port where the author knows _exactly_ why every
> line of code is the way it is, we have a crashy mess nobody wants to spend
> any time on. Yay.
Not sure. No matter how you look at it, Carbon is deprecated and a
bad choice for inclusion.
--with-ns seems to use Cocoa and is therefore the better choice
down the road from what I can gather.
Having said that, if I was able to make all key bindings work in the terminal,
I would most probably ignore graphical frontends and use -nw only.
I use bitmap fonts because they look clean and sharp, but that may be
matter of personal preference. Any remedy so that I can ditch gui frontends
and therefore save even more memory as a side effect?
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Thread overview: 156+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-12-12 13:11 C-g crash in C-x C-f (OSX Lion) Carsten Mattner
2011-12-14 17:56 ` chad
2011-12-14 20:50 ` Jan Djärv
2011-12-14 21:45 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-15 6:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-15 20:42 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-15 20:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-15 21:22 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-15 21:24 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-16 12:46 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-16 13:33 ` Jan D.
2011-12-16 14:21 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-16 14:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-16 19:00 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-16 19:02 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-16 20:11 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-16 20:14 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-16 20:19 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-16 20:21 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-16 21:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-16 21:21 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-16 21:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-16 21:22 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-17 8:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-16 21:24 ` Andreas Schwab
2011-12-17 3:41 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-12-17 4:36 ` Óscar Fuentes
2011-12-17 8:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-17 9:46 ` Jan Djärv
2011-12-17 12:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-17 13:50 ` Jan Djärv
2011-12-17 15:39 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-17 15:49 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-17 16:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-17 16:09 ` Jan Djärv
2011-12-17 16:20 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-17 16:47 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-17 17:15 ` Jan Djärv
2011-12-17 17:19 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-17 17:46 ` Jan Djärv
2011-12-17 18:06 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-17 18:18 ` Jan Djärv
2011-12-17 18:20 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-19 8:40 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-12-19 10:59 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-19 11:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-19 11:51 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-19 14:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-19 11:53 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-12-17 9:27 ` Jan Djärv
2011-12-16 21:49 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-17 8:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-17 0:22 ` Paul Eggert
2011-12-17 9:14 ` Jan Djärv
2011-12-17 17:30 ` Adrian Robert
2011-12-17 17:53 ` Jan Djärv
2011-12-17 18:19 ` Paul Eggert
2011-12-19 18:18 ` Jan Djärv
2011-12-19 21:31 ` Paul Eggert
2011-12-19 9:00 ` René Kyllingstad
2011-12-19 11:00 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-19 15:53 ` Jan D.
2011-12-19 16:52 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-19 17:04 ` chad
2011-12-19 17:25 ` René Kyllingstad
2011-12-19 17:47 ` Carsten Mattner [this message]
2011-12-19 22:27 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2011-12-19 22:29 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-19 23:42 ` chad
2011-12-20 0:03 ` chad
2011-12-20 1:12 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-12-20 1:28 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-12-20 1:40 ` chad
2011-12-20 2:14 ` Glenn Morris
2011-12-20 2:32 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-12-20 9:24 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-12-20 18:33 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-21 0:38 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-12-21 10:42 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-22 0:34 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-12-22 11:23 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-22 0:42 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-12-22 11:28 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-23 1:28 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-12-23 8:09 ` Jan Djärv
2011-12-24 1:54 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-12-26 15:31 ` Jan Djärv
2011-12-26 15:46 ` David Reitter
2011-12-26 16:26 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-26 16:41 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-12-27 1:28 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-12-27 1:14 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-12-23 13:26 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-12-23 15:05 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-12-27 15:52 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-12-28 4:50 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-12-28 7:36 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-12-28 10:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-12-28 13:44 ` Jan Djärv
2011-12-29 0:18 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-12-29 0:57 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-12-29 15:15 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-12-30 0:34 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-12-30 14:52 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-12-30 22:12 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-12-31 13:22 ` Mac OS-compatible ports (was: C-g crash in C-x C-f (OSX Lion)) Ted Zlatanov
2011-12-31 14:27 ` Mac OS-compatible ports Jan D.
2012-01-01 1:54 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-01-01 10:48 ` Jan Djärv
2012-01-01 15:31 ` Adrian Robert
2012-01-02 0:13 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-01-01 1:47 ` Mac OS-compatible ports (was: C-g crash in C-x C-f (OSX Lion)) YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-01-01 7:02 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-01-01 21:18 ` Mac OS-compatible ports David De La Harpe Golden
2012-01-02 6:04 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-01-01 10:50 ` Mac OS-compatible ports (was: C-g crash in C-x C-f (OSX Lion)) Carsten Mattner
2012-01-01 14:06 ` Mac OS-compatible ports Ted Zlatanov
2012-01-02 0:43 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-01-01 6:26 ` Leo
2012-01-01 10:36 ` Jan Djärv
2012-01-01 10:48 ` Carsten Mattner
2012-01-02 10:08 ` Christian Lynbech
2012-01-07 13:09 ` Dimitri Fontaine
2012-01-08 1:07 ` Dave Abrahams
2012-01-08 1:10 ` Dave Abrahams
2012-01-08 1:28 ` chad
2012-01-08 8:37 ` Dimitri Fontaine
2012-01-01 13:24 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-01-01 19:22 ` chad
2011-12-20 1:57 ` C-g crash in C-x C-f (OSX Lion) Leo
2011-12-20 7:29 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-12-19 18:15 ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2011-12-19 18:50 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-19 19:40 ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2011-12-19 20:16 ` Jan Djärv
2011-12-19 20:46 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-20 17:34 ` Adrian Robert
2011-12-17 18:26 ` Richard Stallman
2011-12-17 18:30 ` Carsten Mattner
[not found] ` <CACY+HvrywuKjP8-TtONhaX-D6hK7WPKFhe2gqWA9BkjkpZ_uAg@mail.gmail.com>
2011-12-18 10:22 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-18 13:52 ` Jan Djärv
2011-12-18 14:35 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-18 15:09 ` Jan Djärv
2011-12-18 17:58 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-19 6:32 ` Jan Djärv
2011-12-19 11:04 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-19 13:33 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-19 15:55 ` Jan D.
2011-12-19 16:53 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-19 17:48 ` Jan Djärv
2011-12-19 18:51 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-19 20:16 ` Jan Djärv
2011-12-18 16:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-18 17:11 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-19 2:51 ` Richard Stallman
2011-12-19 11:10 ` Carsten Mattner
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