From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Carsten Mattner Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: C-g crash in C-x C-f (OSX Lion) Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 23:29:52 +0100 Message-ID: References: <4EEB48B2.9090602@swipnet.se> <83liqc1tac.fsf@gnu.org> <83fwgk1atk.fsf@gnu.org> <4EEBE0DC.1050803@cs.ucla.edu> <4EEF5DF5.3030506@swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1324333806 5667 80.91.229.12 (19 Dec 2011 22:30:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 22:30:06 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "Jan D." , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Rene@kyllingstad.com To: Dan Nicolaescu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 19 23:30:02 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Rclia-0000RR-H2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 23:30:00 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35050 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rclia-00086S-4Y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 17:30:00 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:38079) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RcliX-00086N-JY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 17:29:58 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RcliW-0007Ta-KO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 17:29:57 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-iy0-f169.google.com ([209.85.210.169]:64954) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RcliV-0007TI-AM; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 17:29:55 -0500 Original-Received: by iacb35 with SMTP id b35so8704583iac.0 for ; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 14:29:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=xzv9Cb2QdXUQRA9BYtL3xZfQUE26yjZVKePBFqervVQ=; b=BWNNkhkGc7XIvPFxrWff2f2b5me9NrLAUwj1Ffe9Q2psvjkPRwdfIe71o5lSjcJpoy uoF9590FH+4oKa4mLeAuZZaPSWexwF2UP6lsx2oV+KpRynY2gR3v7EZQUdTSRItumP8g c0t/wWzbPdBiKUposMLajLm5AJWDuxs9C52xM= Original-Received: by 10.43.132.201 with SMTP id hv9mr353812icc.42.1324333792679; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 14:29:52 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.50.6.165 with HTTP; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 14:29:52 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 209.85.210.169 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:146856 Archived-At: 2011/12/19 Dan Nicolaescu : > Ren=E9 Kyllingstad writes: > >> On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 17:52, Carsten Mattner >> wrote: >> >> =A0 =A0 On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Jan D. wro= te: >> =A0 =A0 > AFAIK, the Mac port uses Carbon, and is based om Emacs 23, i.e= . no Emacs >> =A0 =A0 24 >> =A0 =A0 > features (like multitty). >> >> =A0 =A0 Sounds like the Mac port should be obsolete and deprecated as >> =A0 =A0 Carbon is deprecated and I'm not even sure it's in Lion anymore. >> >> >> This is alas a common misunderstanding about the Mac port. >> >> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2007-11/msg00424.html >> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2007-11/msg00499.html >> >> The Mac port hasn't been integrated because none of the maintainers are >> particularly interested nor=A0knowledgeable=A0about the mac platform, an= d the >> author of the port has not pushed for it. >> >> So instead of a rock solid port where the author knows _exactly_ why eve= ry line >> of code is the way it is, we have a crashy mess nobody wants to spend an= y time >> on. Yay. > > That's kind of far from reality. > See: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2009-09/msg00199.html > and similar things has been stated by the maintainers a few times on > this list. For the record, how does Aquamacs compare? Is it a fork not trying to re-integrate with way more changes than is healty and acceptable while keeping emacs emacs and not mutating it into TextEdit.app with elisp support?