From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Carsten Mattner Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: C-g crash in C-x C-f (OSX Lion) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 18:11:26 +0100 Message-ID: References: <4EEB48B2.9090602@swipnet.se> <83sjkhzuow.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1324228301 32470 80.91.229.12 (18 Dec 2011 17:11:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 17:11:41 +0000 (UTC) Cc: jan.h.d@swipnet.se, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 18 18:11:35 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RcKGr-0003N1-FE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 18 Dec 2011 18:11:33 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51254 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RcKGq-000215-R5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 18 Dec 2011 12:11:32 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:57342) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RcKGo-00020m-AQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Dec 2011 12:11:31 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RcKGn-0006yP-8l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Dec 2011 12:11:30 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-iy0-f169.google.com ([209.85.210.169]:42339) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RcKGl-0006xw-Qb; Sun, 18 Dec 2011 12:11:27 -0500 Original-Received: by iacb35 with SMTP id b35so6450548iac.0 for ; Sun, 18 Dec 2011 09:11:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=9eML9qjtBoLbLPbvCUsgu6Q5dtrcgOdQV2Fnkj0iA0s=; b=hzKr7zpsqg9fA2S1v2lOZHZ1mjCkd+URr9Yr5J6JodztOunmeFN2yUnY7Oz5NzKFhx v6FB3S8QEryTcNFXskVazrKY95FKHvsUukFQhB7bd2RfiRrWO7bXt+9eyxPyvF7vk3mk 0P6uvV95sWx+VarHYdjBlVaAsQR+y3ut3R14U= Original-Received: by 10.50.94.170 with SMTP id dd10mr21792860igb.41.1324228286918; Sun, 18 Dec 2011 09:11:26 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.50.6.165 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Dec 2011 09:11:26 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <83sjkhzuow.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 209.85.210.169 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:146801 Archived-At: On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 5:54 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 11:22:10 +0100 >> From: Carsten Mattner >> Cc: Emacs developers >> >> For the record, it doesn't crash that easily if I do not run Emacs.app >> via gdb. Usually something starts to work when run in a debugger and >> not the other way around :). > > You should be grateful for this "reverse Heisenbug". The user in me is, the software developer isn't as any kind of uncertainty is a source of sleepless nights and head scratching. If Gene Roddenberry is reading this, can he please reveal the functionality of the Heisenberg Compensator so that we can replicate it in gcc so that it crashes reliably for everybody?