From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Carsten Mattner Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Periodical releases Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 22:31:13 +0100 Message-ID: References: <71588355363047528F16FE989690A488@us.oracle.com> <87wr9997bz.fsf@gmx.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1325539885 16924 80.91.229.12 (2 Jan 2012 21:31:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 21:31:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, Drew Adams , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eric Schulte Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 02 22:31:21 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RhpTU-0000m9-QP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2012 22:31:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55550 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhpTT-0002rv-UO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2012 16:31:19 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:56527) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhpTR-0002rq-Pe for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2012 16:31:18 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhpTQ-000827-Mu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2012 16:31:17 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-iy0-f169.google.com ([209.85.210.169]:33064) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhpTO-00081j-Io; Mon, 02 Jan 2012 16:31:15 -0500 Original-Received: by iacb35 with SMTP id b35so32673832iac.0 for ; Mon, 02 Jan 2012 13:31:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=mAD2pYdlISC12cH5h3F+jCUrF2Y6Hlw1yWSp1qTe4Hc=; b=qH+fyLFj8EuFCBUQUf4GD/cfhzJ31UffKLti4cQeUPMwsWX/lf1QBglpyZuyUr+gfL EjuyVsQoHWqy6YvW9plLDSmD9gpHnnUeqRZCUzFsGI9u2jNhC1m8kjTqyl0ieubsnMRz zNM7JLw/0R/JvxOuGcDvxzEL32HOSbHpIou28= Original-Received: by 10.50.168.3 with SMTP id zs3mr58719202igb.29.1325539873896; Mon, 02 Jan 2012 13:31:13 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.50.106.132 with HTTP; Mon, 2 Jan 2012 13:31:13 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87wr9997bz.fsf@gmx.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 209.85.210.169 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:147196 Archived-At: On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 9:29 PM, Eric Schulte wrote: >>> I would have less of a need to build emacs manually if >>> there were more release and therefore standard emacs >>> Linux distros was more up to date. >> >> The problem you raise here is apparently one of the difficulty/nuisance = of >> building Emacs. =A0It is not about how often to publish releases. >> >> Publishing non-release MS Windows binaries periodically has been _very_ = helpful >> (thank you again to those who have created and posted the builds). =A0At= least on >> that platform, that is a solution to the problem you raise. >> > > It seems that the fix here is not to change the Emacs development and > release process, but rather to encourage package maintainers to provide > packages tracking the Emacs trunk. =A0The debian emacs-snapshot package > described as "The GNU Emacs editor (development snapshot)" returns the > following which is certainly many months (maybe years?) out of date. > > $ emacs --version > GNU Emacs 23.2.1 This is one of the things which I always hoped Gentoo, Exherbo or rPath would solve. Of those Gentoo and Exherbo seem to be the most likely solution. Fedora stable is a good way to get current software while not having to rely on Debian sid. Debian has the advantage of doko releasing gcc-snapshot regularly as a nice way to check for future warnings in unreleased gcc versions.