From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Carsten Mattner Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: C-g crash in C-x C-f (OSX Lion) Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 11:42:57 +0100 Message-ID: References: <4EEB48B2.9090602@swipnet.se> <83liqc1tac.fsf@gnu.org> <83fwgk1atk.fsf@gnu.org> <4EEBE0DC.1050803@cs.ucla.edu> <9E637EAB-A0C5-421B-9CCA-71C41442AF52@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1324464193 5460 80.91.229.12 (21 Dec 2011 10:43:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 10:43:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: chad , Rene@kyllingstad.com, Emacs developers To: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 21 11:43:09 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RdJdb-0007PJ-Fv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 11:43:07 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57850 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RdJdb-0002vo-0p for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 05:43:07 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:41532) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RdJdY-0002vK-GB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 05:43:05 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RdJdS-0001wM-Ev for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 05:43:04 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-iy0-f169.google.com ([209.85.210.169]:38927) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RdJdS-0001wH-B0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 05:42:58 -0500 Original-Received: by iacb35 with SMTP id b35so11755725iac.0 for ; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 02:42:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=S2kohbf3AuUOFdje/7y67Lv1p6WiK98xYrSM0WkUZbY=; b=K8DetjB2aRco4+JvynSzMT9ZusXkBUppYCtgO+B00PBzXkSU32EM4dHrnpFIkSXIRM k8BguBMMka9GzOCG0DfukcifdIhHeLF7tClZ8DsN+tTgjomWWuwQ584LUvKwWGIkDs5a GRPkBMji3Waa5r75lT75dmH1OK3i2ByoQSvqc= Original-Received: by 10.42.73.138 with SMTP id s10mr6086532icj.38.1324464177796; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 02:42:57 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.50.6.165 with HTTP; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 02:42:57 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 209.85.210.169 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:146894 Archived-At: On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 1:38 AM, YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu wrote: >>>>>> On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:33:03 +0100, Carsten Mattner said: > >> All of this prompted me to try harder to make the terminal emacs >> session as usable (key bindings and other non flashy things) as the >> graphical one. =A0I don't really use graphical features anyway and >> have to --disable-FOO on Xorg. =A0Hey, nyan-mode works in text-mode >> too :). > > I'd recommend that for your important tasks. =A0But it would be > appreciated if you could try the NS port for the tasks where crash is > not so critical and send bug reports. Sure. I'm surprised you endorse the NS port instead of the Mac or Aqua ports :-). > BTW, Terminal.app bundled with Lion is also linked with the Carbon > framework, so if you really want to avoid Carbon as much as possible, > then it would be better to use another terminal emulator. I use iTerm2.app and xterm. The comparison doesn't hold as the OSX gui frontend of GNU Emacs is not as well maintained and tested as the X frontend. Therefore it makes a difference which future path is selected and limited resources are used for. If Carbon is deprecated and we already have a Cocoa frontend, enhancing that seems like a better plan to me. Would you consider porting over missing bits into the --with-ns frontend?