From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Carsten Mattner Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: NaCl support for Emacs Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 13:59:21 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87ipkiakqq.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <8739bma0i9.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20120111.134910.720106799840715497.hanche@math.ntnu.no> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1326286779 4018 80.91.229.12 (11 Jan 2012 12:59:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 12:59:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Harald Hanche-Olsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 11 13:59:35 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RkxmB-0006z3-6D for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 11 Jan 2012 13:59:35 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52200 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RkxmA-0007iS-Nu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 11 Jan 2012 07:59:34 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:48864) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rkxm0-0007i8-55 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Jan 2012 07:59:33 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rkxly-00072G-J4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Jan 2012 07:59:24 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-gx0-f169.google.com ([209.85.161.169]:49879) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rkxly-000729-9a for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Jan 2012 07:59:22 -0500 Original-Received: by ggnp4 with SMTP id p4so316567ggn.0 for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2012 04:59:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=s9ZyddcyDIyny+nXSkHKZttkkqP9YjbDkMDrRQzsO0Y=; b=dCmc1lBRoxGAHNL4SqIueGY1CMJBz1S2iTcQ4vsZENx65PGQm5N9o2XklWDRN7iO02 ryr1x0di6LAFKsteHnC4/2pa5ljJeakXEbHLdwtokk67zJ72bgg9dFwpLDpB2d98WOP3 oaG8hvoqD8qnU67nbKe7OeQO8vSI4ZqRqnZI0= Original-Received: by 10.50.182.130 with SMTP id ee2mr7179518igc.30.1326286761542; Wed, 11 Jan 2012 04:59:21 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.50.18.41 with HTTP; Wed, 11 Jan 2012 04:59:21 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20120111.134910.720106799840715497.hanche@math.ntnu.no> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 209.85.161.169 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:147582 Archived-At: On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 1:49 PM, Harald Hanche-Olsen wrote: > ["Stephen J. Turnbull" (2012-01-11 12:26:22 UTC)] > >> Not if it really is. =A0I'm just saying that Bernstein's licensing and >> distribution practices for much of his software, if applied here, >> would be problematic, and it deserves checking before doing too much >> work on adding support for it to Emacs. > > That used to be true, several years ago. But in late 2007, he > announced that he was changing that, and all his software =96 past and > future =96 would be in the public domain [1]. (It may be that some old > distributions of his still have the old license files, though.) > > [1] http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3D-3147768955127254412&hl=3De= n > > As far as I know the term "public domain", there is really only one > kind, so you cannot attach license conditions to something in the > public domain. That would be a contradiction in terms, like hair on a > bald head. (In some jurisdictions, such as Norway, there are moral > rights attached to a work that cannot be given away, such as the right > to be identified as the author of the work. But that is another > matter.) Even if it had a non public-domain license, that license may not be enforceable. We already have a hard time as developers of free code when it comes to deciding whether a combination of two pieces of code is legal. I wish there was a matrix listing all combinations of "free" licenses.