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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Tianxiang Xiong To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 24.5.50; Elisp Manual: Appendix D.7, comment tips Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2016 22:46:01 -0500 Message-ID: <87egb7yvt2.fsf@asus.eau.wi.charter.com> --text follows this line-- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- =3D=3D Problem =3D=3D The Emacs Lisp Reference Manual's Appendix D.7 does not give a good description of what triple and quadruple semicolon comments should be used for. For triple semicolons, the manual says: Comments that start with three semicolons, =E2=80=98;;;=E2=80=99, shoul= d start at the left margin. We use them for comments which should be considered a =E2=80=9Cheading=E2=80=9D by Outline minor mode. For quadruple semicolons, the manual says: Comments that start with four semicolons, =E2=80=98;;;;=E2=80=99, shoul= d be aligned to the left margin and are used for headings of major sections of a program. For example: ;;;; The kill ring This does not make clear what the difference between the two are. As it turns out, 3-and-more semi-colons stand for headings, where the more semi-colons you put the deeper the nesting of the heading. E.g. ;;; Main heading ;;;; Sub heading ;;;;; Sub sub heading ;;;; Another sub heading ;;; Next main heading See this Emacs StackExchange answer by Stefan for more information: http://emacs.stackexchange.com/a/21061/10269 =3D=3D Solution =3D=3D I suggest that the description for three semicolons be changed to: Comments that start with three semicolons, =E2=80=98;;;=E2=80=99, are c= onsidered top-level headings by Outline minor mode. Four or more semicolons can be used as subheadings in hierarchical fashion. E.g. ;;; Main heading ;;;; Sub heading ;;;;; Sub sub heading ;;;; Another sub heading ;;; Next main heading These comments should be used to break Emacs Lisp code into sections. A link to "Outline minor mode" in the Emacs manual would be useful: https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/Outline-Mode.html The section for four semicolons can be elided. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- In GNU Emacs 24.5.50.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.14.6) of 2015-12-02 on asus Repository revision: a27ae9d7650a1230d4359eaf0a949f827315a6d2 Windowing system distributor `Fedora Project', version 11.0.11602901 System Description: Fedora release 21 (Twenty One) Important settings: value of $LANG: en_US.utf8 value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=3Dibus locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Org Minor modes in effect: flyspell-mode: t recentf-mode: t yas-global-mode: t yas-minor-mode: t show-smartparens-global-mode: t show-smartparens-mode: t smartparens-global-mode: t smartparens-mode: t projectile-global-mode: t projectile-mode: t popwin-mode: t pdf-occur-global-minor-mode: t global-page-break-lines-mode: t page-break-lines-mode: t display-battery-mode: t display-time-mode: t global-linum-mode: t linum-mode: t helm-descbinds-mode: t helm-mode: t shell-dirtrack-mode: t async-bytecomp-package-mode: t global-edit-server-edit-mode: t company-quickhelp-mode: t global-company-mode: t company-mode: t tooltip-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t global-prettify-symbols-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t column-number-mode: t line-number-mode: t visual-line-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent messages: [yas] Loading for `html-mode', just-in-time: (lambda nil (yas--load-directory-1 (quote /home/txx/.emacs.d/elpa/yasnippet-20160226.1359/snippets/html-mode) (quote html-mode)))! 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From: Tianxiang Xiong <tianxiang.xiong@gmail.com>
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ob-core ob-eval org-compat org-macs org-loaddefs f= ind-func cal-menu
calendar cal-loaddefs battery time linum helm-d= escbinds helm-mode
helm-files rx image-dired tramp tramp-compat t= ramp-loaddefs trampver
shell pcomplete format-spec dired-x dired-= aux ffap helm-buffers
helm-elscreen helm-tags helm-bookmark helm-= adaptive helm-info bookmark
helm-locate helm-grep helm-regexp hel= m-plugin helm-external helm-net xml
url url-proxy url-privacy url= -expand url-methods url-history url-cookie
url-domsuf url-util ur= l-parse auth-source gnus-util time-date mm-util
mail-prsvr passwo= rd-cache url-vars mailcap helm-utils helm-help
helm-types helm he= lm-source eieio eieio-core helm-multi-match helm-lib
dired helm-c= onfig helm-easymenu cl-macs gv async-bytecomp async
edit-server c= ompany-quickhelp pos-tip slime-company company pcase
byte-opt sli= me-fancy slime-trace-dialog slime-fontifying-fu
slime-package-fu = slime-references slime-compiler-notes-tree advice
slime-scratch s= lime-presentations bridge slime-macrostep macrostep
slime-mdot-fu= slime-enclosing-context slime-fuzzy slime-fancy-trace
slime-fanc= y-inspector slime-c-p-c slime-editing-commands slime-autodoc
eldo= c help-fns slime-repl slime-parse bytecomp byte-compile cconv slime
compile etags arc-mode archive-mode noutline outline easy-mmode pp
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comint ansi-color hyperspec thingatpt browse-url cus-edit cus-start
cus-load wid-edit cl-extra edmacro kmacro hydra ring lv cl-loaddefs=
cl-lib tex-site slime-autoloads info easymenu package epg-config= tooltip
electric uniquify ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type mw= heel x-win x-dnd
tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe tab= ulated-list newcomment
lisp-mode prog-mode register page menu-bar= rfn-eshadow timer select
scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syn= tax facemenu font-core frame cham
georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang v= ietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao
korean japanese hebrew greek = romanian slovak czech european ethiopic
indian cyrillic chinese c= ase-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple
abbrev minibuffer na= dvice loaddefs button faces cus-face macroexp files
text-properti= es overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule
custom widg= et hashtable-print-readable backquote make-network-process
dbusbi= nd gfilenotify dynamic-setting system-font-setting
font-render-se= tting move-toolbar gtk x-toolkit x multi-tty emacs)

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